Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

i think there are DL equiped IR missiles

rn only the IRIS-T SLM comes to my mind tho, which is a ground based system and not an air-to-air one

oops, i confused fox 1 and fox 2, edited it

i heard that the r-27 can be guided via DL until it is close to the target and then you have to hardlock the target

Does anyone here know if there is any actual proof the SU30 can carry KH38 variants irl?

FB-10A also suppose to be DL+IR. As airborne, it rumored that R-74M2 (or how they named it, the short-range missile for Su-57) have it

Doesn’t the pylon make it possible?

Probably, but thats not usually how gaijin adds weapons.

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Considering it said interaction with the targeting and guidance complex it seems to be able to do so, since N001 and RLPK27 they’ve always been integrated although at that point they didn’t have datalink.

From what I’ve seen only mig 29m/35, su35 and su34 can carry kh38, never seen one on a su30

Launching yes

Guiding purely with IRST, no

You would need to slave the radar to the IRST to send datalink updates (which would result in radar pings on the enemy’s RWR)

But, it would make it easier to launch on e.g. IRST HMD locks without having to transfer the lock to radar …

Or to launch on IRST tracks without slaving the radar to send datalink updates (And relying on INS only until active range).

Yes and no.

The R-27ER accelerates faster for the first stage

157.93 ms² at the start of the booster, for 3.2 seconds

93.11 ms² at the start of the sustainer, for 4.8 seconds

The R-77-1 is somewhere in the middle,

128.16 ms² at the start of its 1 stage motor, for 7 seconds

What?

Right, it’s not like flankers can still use r27ea on literally every pylon other than the double racks…

It was supposed to, there were plans to put either the N010MF or N031 into the Su-33. The eventual Su-33UB used the 010MF when it was first tested in '99, with the N031 coming into the picture in '03 before it was abandoned.

Both of these would have been capable of utilizing the R-27EA… Which the 001K was incapable of using.

What?

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What iam saying is, that the r27ea would obviously not be able to be carried on the double pylons on the belly while being heavier than the r-77-1, so you will have a bigger flight performance impact

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Trash update… No Su-35s. And Murica get Aim-120c5. Yea that it why i was against R-77-1.

Meh, they would get it at some point regardless (for the howling for new toys is never ends)

Can someone test if this works on the r771 on dev?

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looks like it can, but as you can see the last R-77’s that were launched went totally the other way almost

What a great update this is…The 2 best jets in the (Meta) game receiving buffs…