Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

Are these dummies?

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should be as they are all dummies in the photo.

It is Passive version, i think
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Ive already posted/progress of the r-27a program here

no, the color of the R-27EP’s radome doesn’t match the one in the mockup

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mb, didn’t have access to this source

Incoming new thread:

“R-27EA may not actually exist”

:)

I think R-77-1 is fine … There’s really no need for R-27EA/EM …

On the other hand, I think R-27ER could use some better lofting …

I would be surprised if they kept it in service this long, without modifying / modernizing the guidance system and introducing more optimized trajectories / better lofting …

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Wasnt it tested with MiG-29M? Would be neat if we had it (MiG-29M) and R-27EA as it only ARH option

R-27ea was never fired only r-27a

Hmm, not good then. Still, would love MiG-29M, or just any MiG at this point

Mig-29 needs some love, so yeah, new Mig when?

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They don’t actually care about realism. They’d be throwing a fit about Ostwind II, F-16AJ, and a handful of other things if they did. They’re driven by a mix of anti-CAS and anti-russia mentality, but mostly anti-CAS. Since they 27EA won’t be killing tanks, they won’t care about whether or not the EA is real.

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Kh-38 is real…How it functions in game is not and that’s the problem.
Yes Gaijin have added prototypes and weapon systems but nothing in this games long and chequered history is as stupid as the Kh-38.

If Gaijin add an all aspect R-27EA they are admitting that Russian missile design wasn’t/isn’t very good. And that Russia need failed prototypes to level the playing field.
If that comes then Aim120C maybe even D needs to be added to game.

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I’m not sure what that even supposed to mean …

AIM-120C and D are supposed to come to the game anyways …

Yeah, I’d assume it underwent some kind of modernization at the very least

Well Russian VKS/VVS are carrying the R-77-1 we have in game. R-77M isn’t in service yet
Gaijin is openly saying that the R-77-1 isn’t good enough and Russia need the R-27EA.

Lmao, good to know that game performance is a perfectly good reflection of the real world performance and doctrines

I wouldn’t consider a datamined idea or consideration as “Gaijin openly saying R-77-1 are bad and R-27EA are needed ASAP”

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You wont have any issues with Meteor being added then? Seems fair that NATO gets it’s in service missiles?

you know that the 27ea would be more balanced because flankers cant carry as many of them and they are even heavier