Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

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10057

LMAO you want to talk about misrepresentation? While talking about using ARHs as tools? That is fucking rich.

What jets have the best magazine depth again? I seem to have forgotten…

Trying to claim the R-77-1 isn’t flat out, far and away the best missile in the game is ludicrous.

The only scenario in which it is not just the best is against the MICA, within certain cases, period.

Claiming anything else is pathetic, but par for the course for the company found here, that has been full of cope and whining since the first ARHs were added to the game.

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10058

What?

10059

You want to talk about using ARHs as tools without understanding those words?

Or maybe you’re just being intentionally obtuse because you refuse to pose a legitimate argument.

10060

Are you trying to say the number of missiles? Say that next time, not “magazine depth”.

10061

Why would I not use the correct terminology? The parlance of our time if you will?

10062

Lmao, anyway. There’s a lot more to plane capabilities than just the depth of the magazine.

But regardless, Fox3’s are still tools at forcing the enemy to behave the way you want.

10063

Oh right, you mean like

Arguably best in class radar ✓

Highest quantity of high caliber CMs ✓

IRST ✓

NCTR✓

TVC which pairs almost perfectly with the R-73 IRCCM and envelope ✓

Tell me did I forget anything? But surely the 30SM is actually trash and needs the SM2 upgrades…

10064

TWR is a huge one

Where did I say that?

10065

Why don’t you use your tools correctly to make up for that then?

10066

RBE 2, Rafale

As opposed to not being able to use BOL Pods, which can pop as much chaff as they can?

PIRATE and whatever Rafale has is better, because it can also act as a TGP

Funnily enough, Rafale also gets the same 51 types NCTR

You mean a gimmick?

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10067

Can ask you the same thing…

10068

I’m not the one that seems to think the Su-30SM is anything but the best aircraft in the game.

Because outside of guns only 1v1s it flat out is.

10069

Probably because it isn’t. Can handle them easy enough in the Typhoon and Rafale

10070

Maybe an unpopular opinion. But Su-30sm its trash. Right now the only fun it have its the stupid amount of Missile. And its the only reason it sit on 14.0.

Rafale or Eurofighter are way more brain death to play and fun. Rafale being stupid broken that with just a turn you evade any missile in game… Sadly they don’t have the same amount of missile.

10071

First time since MLD was introduced Russia is on a somewhat even field, and it instantly makes people mad.

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10072

I’ve noticed since the patch a decent increase in people multipathing

10073

wait until they discover that if missile coming from above close to 90 degrees angle multipath will be extremely unreliable

10074

Does anyone have a real picture of a Kh-38MT btw?

10075

Yea you forget the overnerfed flight model and awful twr. You forget the r73 often oversping and basically very easy to dodge. You forget the r77-1 have the biggest drag. You forget the f16, f15, ef2k, rafale, gripen, m2k, j10, j11b better than su30 in every aspect

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10076

120 cannot do what the R-77-1 can.
R-77-1 can pull harder a 120 within 7km doesnt pull like an R-77-1.

With the change to BVR as in players arent doing it.
We end up in the short to medium range and the R-77-1 and MICA are the meta missiles.

Su-30 is probably the 2nd best jet in the game.

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