Because it has long-range longevity, unlike the R-77’s.
But it is a heavy loadout on an already heavy plane, so I also have a lighter version of it, ~1t less.
The R-77-1’s lack the long range pressure of the R-27’s or AIM120’s, especially since the Su-30 engines restrict your battlefield presence further back behind your teammates even before the engagement starts.
But you can use them to force the enemy into going defensive, while pressing the advantage with R-27ER’s, R-27ET’s and R-73’s.
Funnily enough, that’s one thing people don’t do enough, pressing the advantage.
And the aim120 jets can apply pressure back. That’s the art of BVR jousting. Typical engagements, pressing the advantage closes the distance after only a couple of fox3’s.
12 missiles comes more into play over the longterm battle than individual engagements, but then War Thunder matches are won/lost in the first few minutes anyway, in those first plays.
Its what makes the Typhoon such an incredible jet, TWR and exceptional missiles gives it incredible pressure against enemy jets in the individual engagements.
And frankly I could care less about a rating that is influenced so much by ASB, when a majority of my usage with it is in GSB which requires different play styles.
I could very easily sit in EC matches with it to inflate it and make you look like the fool you are though o7
Typhoons Radar is a liability, it’s payload is one of the weakest. 120s are good at longer range and 9ms are well fine they dont pull G and cant be used in a dogfight.
The Su-30 will find Typhoon first it will be in a position to apply pressure and keep Typhoon on the defensive until it gets into realistic killing ranges
It then sits in the notch and uses up the other 5+ missiles it has.
All Typhoon can do in that case is try and multipath or run away and go cold
If that doesnt work and it merges with Typhoon the R-73 and Cobra button give it more of an advantage.
Typhoons Radar is terrible. Su-30 has better SA.
Yes Typhoon is fast which is relevant.
6 120s vs 12 R-77-1
BOL pods as your main counter measures a MAWS/DASS system that doesnt work.
Aim9M is fine, but as distances close the missile is less effective similar to the 120.
I think equal pilots the Su-30SM edges it in the current game.
Its a solid radar, you don’t need much to hammer down the pressure on the enemy, either TWS with narrow search limits or STT.
Even the notorious Su-27SM radar is enough for that.
What it can’t do the best is the lazy tactic of climbing, rippling off all the fox3’s and running back to base. Which is a bad play either way, because again, it doesn’t press the advantage.
Maintaining pressure, you don’t need to get into dogfight range. The IRCCM does the rest.
Su-35S and Su-30SM2 (not all of them from my understanding) carry AL-41F-1S, and Su-57 carries AL-41F-1. 1S difference is usage of old hydromechanical engine controls, while basic F-1 uses electrical controls. I dunno if reduced thrust is due to that or some other changes tho.
