Other missiles would still miss more often because they lacked the INS and much higher speed. A near miss with an an AIM7 would result in minor damage, but an R27 would still cripple or destroy the aircraft outright.
Several factors combined made it effective, much more so than other missiles.
I tested this and I found no difference between the two. The only thing I could show was that larger proximity fuse range and warhead allowed higher damage in case of near-miss.
It’s more equal now, due to the reduced multipathing height.
Before multipathing was reduced the R27 had a significant advantage.
God the Su-33 flies like crap.
I mean, it should be slightly worse than Su-27 irl, but since the Su-27 flies like crap ingame the Su-33 is almost unbearable.
I am telling you, I tested this extensively before multipath was reduced and more often than not the R-27 was more affected. The missile wants to dive into the ground and it puts larger separation than the others. When you release lock on the AIM-7F/M the missile begins to fly straight, bringing it closer to the target under the multipath layer instead of into the ground in front of him.
What you are saying is total nonsense. Even with the fact that the AIM-7F/M was closer to the target the result was more or less the same. I’m not even trying to claim the AIM-7F/M performed better… it just should have in these conditions.
They also crashed on the dev server with the Su-33 while landing on Kuznetsov lol
The point of making it was to make a more agile su27 was it not?
No, it was mainly for carrier adaptation.
So it gets a larger wing area, and canards to keep it stable at lower speeds, and decrease the stall speed in general.
But the tradeoff is the extra weight and while it does get improved engines with more thrust, it still isn’t enough to offset it completely. Su-33 still has a lower thrust-to-weight ratio than Su-27S.
Makes sense to me. Canards came in last patch, so I’m sure the FM (by their standards of course) was polished and ready for release.
I still don’t get why they didn’t work harder to get the Su-30SM out earlier. I really felt like Su-30SM was the perfect compliment to the EFT and Rafale for a patch I was hoping would be called (Euro-canards).
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Finally something to enjoy this patch, as we doubtfully are getting anything not Premium or Squadron.
Anyone done some dev server tests with it other than MatAWG?
True as this may be, no one (i.e. most of the player base) with AIM-7’s seems to have ever bothered to learn how to use them. Nicer radars and SPAMRAAMs have given people the point and click experience they expected US top tier Air to be, but without the learning curve.
I’ve pulled about 10 60-80km lock/kills with the MiG-29/Su-27 using ER’s before ARH’s were updated. How? I changed my radar display, and used the different radar settings to BVR people. Guarantee you most people don’t do that, and probably not even now in the F-15C/E, F-16C, Gripen.
R-77’s, even when maxing their effective gameplay style are still worse than the AIM-7’s vs the 27R/ER’s. How do I know? Because the few times I’ve flown the Su-34 with ER’s I can force some of the SPAMRAAMERs defensive by launching on them with something that can actually hit them.
This is how all flankers should maneuver.
I’m not sure about that.
@BBCRF
Can a Su-30SM do that, airshow configuration?
There is no way that is possible on a Su-33.
https://youtube.com/shorts/etvhWKz-TOU?si=7-S7RvLWjef9kyfW there’s this su-30 however idk the variant
By appearance, and it’s hard to tell without the TVC seeming active, but it looks to be a Flanker-H of some kind, probably an Su-30SM/SM2 considering the Russians do the majority of air shows/demos.
Yes. And I wouldn’t doubt that an Su-33 couldn’t do it, it just would do it as well and wouldn’t have some of the moves the TVC allows the Su-30SM to pull off.
I think it’s 100% intentional. Keeping USSR weak in air helps their bottom line.
I don’t know what configuration you mean.
