No
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Yes, the Su-34 is capable of a half kulbit maneuver according to Gaijin. At least Ace Combat isn’t being serious about realism, while War Thunder claims to be.
The Su-27, renowned for excellent low-speed AOA performance and handling, practically begins to stall in War Thunder if you try to replicate such maneuvering.
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Pretty good considering that the Su-34 weighs over 20 tons empty.
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Is it just me or are the R-77 on the Su-27sm straight up dead weight? I shoot once rear aspect to some plane and it does a 90 Degree turn to nowhere. They have more explosive filler than the amraam does and I think I’ve gotten only 1 insta kill with them so far, most cases they don’t even crit. They also seem to love chaff more but that just might be me
I feel it’s kinda crap compared to the amraam, didn’t bother researching the 27SM but i have them on the mig29SMT
Not really, no. They pull way better than AMRAAMs at close ranges and they are very lethal. On the flip side it has less effective range which means you’ll have to get really close to enemy. Long range shots against AMRAAM equipped aircrafts are basically skill-check for your enemy. If they know how to defend your missile will bite the dust.
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That’s every missile.
Yes that is true. But chances of obtaining a kill with another Fox-3 that isn’t Derby is way higher than R-77 at BVR fight. If your enemy simply turns away and cranks a little he doesn’t even need to drop chaff.
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Guys did they actually nerf the Su-34’s radar? I heard that its just a little better than the Su-27SM 's radar now.
they did nerf it but its still better than smt’s radar. (but the main disadvantage is that it can only scan ±60* , unlike smt’s ±85*)
Despite the nerfs its still significantly better than the Su-27SM’s radar.
I’ve used both R-77’s and SPAMRAAMs and I haven’t really noticed any noteworthy difference in the effectiveness of their seekers. The problems with the R-77 boil down to the improperly modeled drag where even with a supersonic launch the missiles will immediately hemorrhage their energy. This means that they have pathetic range and pathetic ability to chase targets. It’s depressing having a rear aspect shot on an afterburning enemy and knowing that a SPAMRAAM will run them down unless they quickly notch/multipath but they will be capable of just outrunning my R-77.
As an aside though, the slower speed of the R-77 means that they spend a bit more time in transit between launch and attempted kill, which just gives the universe more time for a blue enemy to run in front of the beam and steal the lock.
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Once they add the R-77-1 things will get better for BVR, besides Gaijin’s bad modelling it’ll have more range than the current missile, until then or the improvement of FMs i’m not playing soviet/russian top tier planes lol.
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Mostly the same for me. I am going to unlock and spade the Su-34 though. It will be useful in ground RB with those Kh-38s, and the GROM-2’s should help with “kill bases” dailies and special tasks. But once spaded I don’t see myself flying them in air battles under normal conditions.
I’ll be spading the F-15E first though.
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I was going to play with the su34 just for the sake of larping with the funny russian smoke(grom-1) but they removed It… Imo it’ll be awesome for ground battles but those are an absolute no-no for me lol
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NASA’s standard roughness strikes again
That’s odd, tbh. You’d think stuff like diagnostics would be baked into the code and not really removable.
Btw, have you seen the Aircraft Information/Tact Map Guide thread?
Also, do you by chance know if people can fly the Su-27 (or MiG-29) in a user mission even if they don’t have the aircraft in game? I wouldn’t mind doing some testing, but I’ve not played the USSR’s air tree at all (and I’ve only got KB+M and Xbox controllers).
Turns out, Su-30KI was Su-27SK retrofitted with fuel probe and international navigation system for Indonesia. Then it was turned into second prototype of Su-27SM (famous white-gray 305 aircraft) and later was used for Su-27SKM programm.
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