Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

In what part of IRST is really strong = underperforming? People literally turn off the crappy N001 set and hug the ground against space climbing blufor just to ambush them with ETs (and the lack of markers helps with that)

the irst dosent help you seeing a guy contrailing
you just see them naturally

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There’s literally a trend in ASB rn because blufor got comfy and complacent with ARH slinging and aren’t able to properly counter the mid as heck 30SM

Because it’s not really strong? I generally spot targets visually before the IRST can lock them.

HMD IR then, happy now?

but why would i need to ir lock him?

i can kill a guy that spaceclimed just as well in a Eurofighter or even Gripen

Cause you need an IR lock to shoot a missile?

oh i thought you meant an hms ir hardlock
but even then pretty much every jet in that bracket has hmd/hms

I mean it’s also there to give you range data

Yes, but like I said, BLUFOR players gets complacent with being up in space flinging ARH

That is not what the response to that report says, but I will test his numbers when I get home. Half the time I read these I feel like it’s people trying to do it with mouse aim, or dampening on because they can’t control it in Manual.

trust me,
a tgp with thermals is a thousand times more useful than only having the irst

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From what I’ve been reading seems like the ranging capability is greatly exaggerated … It should be only a few kilometers … Essentially for a gun solution for the most part …

Yes OLS should only be limited to 6km at most afaik? Gaijin is just probably too lazy to model that

that goes for every irst (that can range) ingame

I think it’s because it’s supposed to me more integrated with the radar as an FCS package, instead of a one or the other like we get

Well, radar ranging kinda negates the “stealth” advantages

It adds extra lines of code, and that cost productive hours they could use to copy paste the next Leopard 2 in game you know

MB linke the wrong one
there are two that have a nearly identical name
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/dTm9ig0YG7qP

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There is good utility in being able to lock a target in IR, and then wait until you are in effective R-77 range, hit the IRST/Radar swap , and quickly fire an R-77. It gives minimum reaction time to your target. Yet another reason to like the R-77.

It would be less one sided if TGPs could do the same, like they should be able to