Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

1 advantage of sim is the lack of markers, that’s where IRST is really strong because you can sneak up on people

Then they aren’t using it right. The advantages of the Su-27SM are amplified in ARB since it has better situational awareness than it normally would.

You have a link to the report?

iam gonna look for it

I always thought the flanker was more than enough for the meta even when they used t-10 documents to model it because of its powerful payload (although it wasn’t nice to have such a lazily made FM)…

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It’s not because the IRST is significantly underperforming, and it’s interaction with the FCS is also incorrect, but that’s a symptom of the implementation for all in-game not just the Su-27.

You’re better off just keeping an R-73 spooled up and looking around than you are using the IRST.

found it


https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/U209JJp8UNJs

In what part of IRST is really strong = underperforming? People literally turn off the crappy N001 set and hug the ground against space climbing blufor just to ambush them with ETs (and the lack of markers helps with that)

the irst dosent help you seeing a guy contrailing
you just see them naturally

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There’s literally a trend in ASB rn because blufor got comfy and complacent with ARH slinging and aren’t able to properly counter the mid as heck 30SM

Because it’s not really strong? I generally spot targets visually before the IRST can lock them.

HMD IR then, happy now?

but why would i need to ir lock him?

i can kill a guy that spaceclimed just as well in a Eurofighter or even Gripen

Cause you need an IR lock to shoot a missile?

oh i thought you meant an hms ir hardlock
but even then pretty much every jet in that bracket has hmd/hms

I mean it’s also there to give you range data

Yes, but like I said, BLUFOR players gets complacent with being up in space flinging ARH

That is not what the response to that report says, but I will test his numbers when I get home. Half the time I read these I feel like it’s people trying to do it with mouse aim, or dampening on because they can’t control it in Manual.

trust me,
a tgp with thermals is a thousand times more useful than only having the irst

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From what I’ve been reading seems like the ranging capability is greatly exaggerated … It should be only a few kilometers … Essentially for a gun solution for the most part …