these planes are extremely light compared to the su30sm…this also affects their turning radius i think, which would be much smaller
wouldn’t it be better to try to compare the su30sm with the su27sm? or the su33, or even the f15s, at least they are similar…
They really should just give us a mishmash SM and SM2
thats why I talked about the aoa (on the mig-15)
those matchups look even worse for the su-30
i mean it gets even outrated by the mig-29smt
It performs even worse than the Su-33 despite being lighter, checked the FM code turns out it has a significantly lower oswalds coeff than any other flanker (rest have the same number) not sure why, but thats part of the reason it feels really fat, other reason is that it is just fat
can you bugreport that?
or are they going to shout that down
Unfortunately it would be impossible to find any manual for the su30sm that is not restricted (i couldnt find any), I don’t know how it would be possible to fix it unless it is purely based on guesswork and comparing it to the sukhois already in the game, and tbh this forum doesnt really like russian stuff enough to help the su30sm fm (they might even try to nerf it), the last person that helped a lot the su27 was @Giovanex05
Maybe we have info about any of the export versions that could be applied to the sm? (mki, mka, mkm)
no idea, i couldnt find anything
cant make reports based off datamined information, and since theres no manuals available a report is essentially impossible.
Ahahh
Su-33 has way better engines, isnt it?
Su33 is also heavier than the su30
Well that’s strange, what value does it have right now?
Also Oswald makes it “feel fat” in turns, acceleration wise (which is what I was mostly referring too since with bvr good acceleration and climb are the important parameters) it is just (mostly) a matter of thrust versus weight
I think in case of T/W ratio su-33 still might be better
Only by 570kg in the datamine files
18400 vs 18970
Su-33 has a better afterburner thrust than either 27 and 30sm
Ur correct, i got things wrong mb
No
The inductive drag of the Su-30 should be lower than that of the Su-27
A new saga of FM fixing begins
