Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/dTm9ig0YG7qP

Is the Su-27 in WT still bad at the moment?

Curious, You would think the more bulbous airframe with canards would produce more drag?

Does that translate to the Su-35 platform too?

Man, we’ve been there since the beginning

It got a little buff during storm warning. And hornet sting fixed radars across the board

Why would the Su-30sm’s induced drag be lower?

Bad

Canard provide profile drag, but not inductive

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Canards
Provided that the aircraft masses are equal

it looks like the su30sm has been “nerfed” with this latest dev server update… it seems heavier and with the limiter off it can’t do tvc things as fast as before D: (that’s what people are saying)

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Yeah you can kinda tell the difference, feels more sluggish and, as you said, slower in pulling those TVC maneuvers.

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and they still won’t give it AL-41, they never will because any meaningful discussion of Russian jets get silenced by shouts of russian bias

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crying-sobbing

new empty weight is 18,830kg btw. That’s 430kg more than before

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I have no idea where they got this from, when I tried to find information about the empty weight of the su30sm, at first I found a few places saying 17,700kg, then I saw a lot more sites saying 18,400kg, now gaijin put 18,830kg and that’s new to me

they also reduced fuel amount from 9600kg → 9400kg. Not that it really matters, because you really shouldn’t take full fuel anyways

Su-30SM engines’s afterburner thrust is 11040 kgf while su-33 is 12080, i think that explains the difference in the performance, although the weight is still kinda controversial

are yefim gordon and hugh harkins reliable secondary sources?

The new TWR with 50% fuel and 15% loss now is 0.902

Hilarious

seem like gaijin really hate soviet tech, they nerf the su30sm before the 3d model got fix

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