Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

Can you send any information about them?

This is still irrelevant to the thread and my point still stands. Nothing I said was in error. The T-90 moniker is not warranted as it is not a new tank design and it absolutely lost a ton of reputation after 1991.

The Su-35 uses a lot of composites and lighter weight materials but the weight is not saved much. My calculations could be wrong and it could very well be 50% fuel and the empty weight could very well be in excess of 18,500kg.

Such as?

You were the one and only person in over 3k comments to mention the T-90, and you did such in response to a reply about missiles.

Don’t point fingers when you’re the one causing the issue.

It absolutely is? The entire basis of the T-90 was founded on the irtish system, and it received a different name due to its change in nationality.

What lost reputation? The tank wasn’t shown to the world until close to a decade later, with countries effectively jumping for it in the 2000s.
Hell, the tank itself didn’t even exist in 1991…

if use this as a reference

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Su-30sm dry weight 25891-2574-3547=19770kg

I didn’t cause an issue, what I said was at the time relevant and correct.

Nonsense.

Manufacturer primary source material says loaded weight is 19,710kg

You brought up an “irrelevant” talking point and called it out as such when I replied to your comment.

Relevant and correct? You replied to THIS.

with THIS

Sound argument, I love the use of facts and objective proof to counter what I said.

You’re a joke.

With SU30SM capability, I really doubt it will be great 14.0 material unless it does get R-77-1 with Su-27SM dual pylon loadout. Even then I doubt it will be that efficient since R-77s will still suck quite a bit and the T/W ratio isn’t the best anyways. Also 96 CM will not help u challenge AMRAAM spam. Maybe let’s wait and see how a better radar does on a flanker first, and what they do with J11B if it comes first. Really need some decompression as well.

100%, fighting those Fox3s monsters in a mig29 isn’t nice

Even F16s suffer cause AIM7Ms are useless. I really think they are stuck in an awkward spot. Decompression to 14.7 is required.

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Irony; ad hominem

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You throw around fallacies when you haven’t even engaged in the topic you started… That’s… Amazing.

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Thanks

What would be the flanker counterpart for an upgraded F-15E (APG-82V1, EPAWSS) and what would be the counterpart for the F-15EX?

Su-35S would be end of the line Flanker.

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So would be Su-35S and F-15EX same BR, probably at same time

No idea. Probably not.

If F-15EX received upgraded version of F-15A flight model then it would just be a pure upgrade to Su-35S in the base model Flanker is considered to be the starting point.

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F-15EX is F-15E with FBW and better electronics, maybe slightly lighter empty but loaded up, heavier

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There are talk about Su-35s with Su-57 avionics and engine… Dunno if is true. But i have read people talking about it.

I have my doubts. Also in some source 177s engine are pitch for all flanker and in other is for Su-75. So its hard to tell. I think its for the first option. That its why it was reveal at China.

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Maybe

The F-15EX is a strike eagle with avionics possibly better than F-22 and F-35