You throw around fallacies when you haven’t even engaged in the topic you started… That’s… Amazing.
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What would be the flanker counterpart for an upgraded F-15E (APG-82V1, EPAWSS) and what would be the counterpart for the F-15EX?
Su-35S would be end of the line Flanker.
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So would be Su-35S and F-15EX same BR, probably at same time
No idea. Probably not.
If F-15EX received upgraded version of F-15A flight model then it would just be a pure upgrade to Su-35S in the base model Flanker is considered to be the starting point.
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F-15EX is F-15E with FBW and better electronics, maybe slightly lighter empty but loaded up, heavier
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There are talk about Su-35s with Su-57 avionics and engine… Dunno if is true. But i have read people talking about it.
I have my doubts. Also in some source 177s engine are pitch for all flanker and in other is for Su-75. So its hard to tell. I think its for the first option. That its why it was reveal at China.
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The F-15EX is a strike eagle with avionics possibly better than F-22 and F-35
The Su-35s its close to the in game RAFALE they’re both from same year. And while it should be the more modern Flanker. It avionic are not close to the Su-57. Some guy the other day posted a link to a Russian blog(?). With info about it. I think even Mig35 have better avionic than Su-35s. Also isn’t the F-15EX like 10 years younger than the Su-35s?.
Yeah, but I thought latest flanker vs latest eagle?
Also the base for the F-15EX, the F-15SA, flew 2013 so sort of not that big of a gap
IF we go with that. Su-35’ are from 90’s. First Su-35 its like 92 and Su-37 its from 96?. T-10bm its from 2003. So yea still like 10 years gap.
Su-35 first flight 2007 or 8?
The radar performance though, I doubt Su35 will be able to compete with F15EX in that sense, also since that is the F22 ‘replacement’ (ironic but true), and also even with R-77M it will be hard to say if it is really an AMRAAM-D equivalent never mind AIM-260.
I wouldn’t say replacement. AIM-260 and the current upgrade program will keep the F-22 going strong until NGAD is in full service. F-22 and F-15EX are complementary aircraft.
Yes, F-15EX likely has the most powerful, capable AESA radar ever fitted on a fighter, but its flight performance will generally be worse than Su-35S. I think an R-77M would be 120D-3 equivalent, not AIM-260 though
Why would the F-15EX’s radar be the most concerning issue here, shouldn’t it just be slinging payload for other sources of missile track data via the two-way datalinks on AIM-120D/AIM-260?
Jet-jet DL isn’t a thing yet in game, so for now the aircrafts own sensors are the most important thing
Luckily, the F-15EX is far from lacking in this department
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I don’t think so, NGAD hasn’t even been flown as far as public information (unless it was one of the UFOs that constantly flew over US) and at this rate, F-22s should be out of service within a decade, they have already started the program so yeah. F15EX does have worse flight performance but my issue is, with engagement ranges of 200km, does that really matter? I think in WT as of RN it does, since I have gotten one BVR kill so far, 2 actually, one with ARH, other with R27ER, but nevertheless, BVR will be a lot less manoeuvrability demanding.
I think sources suggest PLAAF are starting experiments with ultra long range missiles, stuff equivalent to R37. But that should be the direction future air engagements go.
USAF officer commented on NGAD prototype test flight in 2020, said it was “incredible”
Still years away from service though, so F-22 has some life in it still.
You are kind of right, but since Su-35S will have R37M to launch at F-15EX from very far away it will still compete in BVR
When I said jet-jet DL isn’t a thing I meant in game, NATO has had this capability for years. And US currently developing a very long range AAM of its own right now
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I am just thinking, with Meteor, PL15 or even PL17 (that huge missile seen on J16) and R37, I think US is kinda desperate seeing they need to ctrl c + v RIM174 onto hornets.
I really want to see how large is PL17 actually, huge even seen on a flanker. What’s the size comparison to AIM174 and R37?
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