Sukhoi Company Su-57 Felon - Russia's Stealth Apex Predator

Maybe we’ll see later this year if they decide to go ahead with the 5th generation aircraft.

It will be interesting to see how they model everything. I do have a feeling that all planes will have 1 value for RCS, no matter the angle and frequency. Just kidding, Gaijin would never do that🙄🙄🙄

Maybe, but perhaps they can model the RCSs sorts like they do penetration angles and distances if you get what I mean.

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Wait, wait. So they’re using the exact same model, yet depending on the simulation method they can get anything from an RCS of nearly 1 m² to something comparable to a proper 5gen fighter? What a fantastic simulation. It does a wonderful job of demonstrating that the Su-57’s RCS is nothing like what people claim it is. What is it, then? Nobody seems to know.

Why did I even waste my time on this?

I hope so. Maybe we can get volumetric RCS lol

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for example

It might be difficult to understand but one of them treats the Su-57 as a perfectly conducting surface. The other one models it with RAM, to compare it to the F-35. You can’t really judge a plane’s RCS if you give it the worst possible surface treatment. Especially for the Su-57 since its radar blockers absolutely need RAM to be effective. Without RAM applied to these, the engines will cause a lot of resonance.

If, in one case, the estimated RCS differs by two orders of magnitude, and in another the addition of RAM almost equalizes the results, then apparently all you need to do to create a stealth fighter is take an F-15 and coat it generously with RAM. That’s how it works, right?

Where? I may have genuinely missed it.

Significantly reduced RCS? Yes. Depends on how you define stealth. It wouldn’t be nearly as low as the Su-57 due to the fact that the engines would have a very high signature due to the straight intake design. It doesn’t have a radar blocker either.

It also has a lot of sharp edges without any angles.

There was an attempt to make a low signature F-15, the F-15SE. Allegedly, it had a 80% lower RCS than the normal F-15.

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thats how DCS does it
and everyone knows that DCS is just like real life, so that has to be how it is IRL as well

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DCS tries to look real but it’s insanely simple under the hood.

well iam still gone use it to LARP from time to time

clicky buttons in cockpit goes brrrrrrrrrrr

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No problem, we’ll just install a radar blocker. Better yet, make it two.

We apply the RAM very, VERY generously. Then we feed it into your simulation, and voila! A super-stealth aircraft is born.

(No, that’s not how this works)

right here

and here

also here

and last but not least

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not its not
a radar beam wave with a wavelength of 1cm cannot see a detail that is 5mm for example

thats how physics work

X band is at 8 to 12 GHz
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and at 8 to12 GHz you will have a wavelength of ~2.5cm to ~3.75cm

for that reason you can look inside a microwave
becasue the mesh shielding in the door has holes that are smaller than the wavelength of the microwaves

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And this is where we run into a problem. Because if you look at any 5gen fighter, or for that matter any stealth aircraft, you’ll notice serrated panel edges and joints, which are then treated with RAM as well. But according to this line of reasoning, all the engineers who designed those aircraft simply weren’t told “that’s how physics works.”
Makes you think.

so you dont have any argument

then just stop writing bc the panel gaps ar still there
having serrated panels wont make the panel gaps and screws disapear

the serrated edges are so that you dont have long straight lines

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Looks like they just went ahead and bent the stabs by hand XD

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