this is kinda a dumb argument, there’s a picture floating out there of a su34 if i recall correctly having one engine with a blue trial and one engine with an orange trail, it’s not just temp that changes it, also fuel mixture etc
yes the SU34 probably was putting more fuel into one engine
if your on take off it could be to counteract some other force the whole reason there blue is that the combustion tempatures are hotter running hotter than other planes look orange is colder than blue but engine nozzle size can effect it as if you have lets say a F5E with blue burner it will be colder than a F14 with orange
SU33 also uses a increased thrust engine burning at lower temps
you are contradicting yourself again
i sent an image of a blue afterburner on the Su-33 and yet you are saying it is burning at a lower temp
The blue color is given by the characteristic EM radiation of C-H bond breaking, C- and H- radicals forming and recombining with O- radicals to form CO2 and H2O. This is independent of temperature and is the reason why a new gas oven’s flames are blue.
like i said we are talking about jet engines and not candels
the left engine the orange one is yes the right one is burning fuel much hotter
are you even reading my messages?
a youtube short isnt a source
i gave you the explenation for why they are blue and you just ignore it, great
The blue color is given by the characteristic EM radiation of C-H bond breaking, C- and H- radicals forming and recombining with O- radicals to form CO2 and H2O. This is independent of temperature and is the reason why a new gas oven’s flames are blue.
The orange color is definitely the characteristic blackbody radiation wavelength of about 1500K, ~1200 degree Celsius. Now the problem is what the source of this blackbody radiation is. The way I see it it’s possibly from three sources:
The hot afterburner inner wall,
The soot produced by partial combustion, or
The incandescent exhaust itself.If the above recap is correct, this means either
- the Western afterburners either run a lot dirtier than Eastern afterburners, which is unlikely because F35 and F22 have orange afterburner flames and they must be running squeaky clean to not have their afterburner inner walls coated with soot (amorphous carbon) thus having a huge IR signature because of the high emissivity of carbon, and we do not see black smoke coming from any jet since F4,
or
- Western afterburners are a lot hotter than Eastern afterburners, to the point that the blackbody radiation color, which is dependent on temperature, dominates the radical color, which is independent of temperature. This seems to be the logical conjecture, given that the Russians have always been pretty poor on metallurgy.
to achive a blue flame by heat alone it would need to burn at ove 10000°C which is hotter than the sun
or do you think a candel burns at those tempretures?
the fuel is a big factor why the afterburner is blue which should be clear because the Al-31F used in the Su-27S and the Al-31FP are the same engine with one having TVC nozzels and the other dosent
and yet the Al-31FP has blue flames, that is because they use a different fuel for the Su-30 compared to the Su-27S
blue flame = hotter only makes sense if both aircraft use the same fuel which they dont
pak fa was the name of the su57 project afaik, the image is of FGFA, there really isnt much info of what changes HAL/IAF wanted
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i thought the entire reason why they developed r77m was cause r77/1 didn’t fit in weapons bay lol
probably rocket launchers
You are probably right, it doesn’t look like aku170
R77-1 still uses mechanical seeker, and old booster, makes sense for a upgraded one
I wonder which episode this is
This does look like a twin ejector on what looks to be T-50-4
Is there any trustable sources that 77M has different seeker? Doubt so
Portable gas stove contains more power than the sun