Suggestion of buffs on the leclerc

I am here to suggest buffs and things to be corrected on the leclerc and all its variants. First, the probably most common issue about the leclerc, the reloading time. Days before the leclerc was unique with its auto reload that was faster than casual mbt’s, with its faster reload, faster mobility and all. Today it’s just like the ariete, a tank that is no more the fastest that has a casual reload compared to other tanks that got their reload time reduced to 5 sec, which is maybe possible for the first round but not for the rest of the round, counting the loader exhaustion. But that another debat. The leclerc performance got nerfed a lot days by days, it is not the fastest, not the most armored, it has very mid apfsds, casual reload, and it is just a pain to see and play with it, I suggest buffs, I seek to balance it and not really match real information, I mean gajin love to use their mind to create tanks and put incorrect reload or speed and thing like that, just like the T-58 which is a good example. Anyways, let’s start, my first suggestion is about balancing the reload time, since we don’t get a good apfsds with the leclerc, It sounds logical and correct to reduce the reload time to 4 seconds; it would balance the fact that leclerc apfsds is one of the worst in top tier. Plus, it’s not that hard to find videos about Leclerc’s auto loader that load in a bit less than 4 seconds in combat situations. But anyways, it’s about balance, not real performance. As an additional or as a counterpart, adding the French SHARD, the new apfsds from nexter.

What do you guys think

Buffing reload speed to 4 seconds depends on if Gaijin sees the leclerc not performing up to par. It’s not up to us. But I think the leclerc can get the OFL 120 F2 if its given similar pen to the type 10 round Japan has.

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Most primary sources for the leclerc shows either 6s or “less than 6s”, not sure where did you even get 4s from

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Its from the videos, though thats 4 seconds that doesn’t count the gun going down and up to reload which no tank has modeled anyways. Leclerc is lucky Gaijin didn’t lock the reload to 10 seconds when on the move to preserve the autoloading mechanism. All official sources state 6 rounds in a minute so its up to Gaijin to decide 5 seconds or 4 seconds. Some sources say less than 6 seconds for reloading the same round after and longer if its a different round. I can’t confirm those though.

Which videos shows the complete cycle at 4s?

No videos show a complete cycle at 4 seconds

Then they are irrelevant, even if the gun movement is not a thing in game they do count for the reload time, as they are part of the cycle just like the round ejection, the leclerc already have a quite generous approach to the reload as only secondary source really support a 5 s reload.

None of this matters, Gaijin will decide the reload rate as they use reloading as a balancing mechanism.

They do matter, autoloaders are not subject to balancing mechanics like they do for manual loaders they have already state it, they only take documented reloads.

And the French have officially stated that it can shoot 6 rounds in a minute. Gaijin didn’t give the leclerc a 10 second reload and no source I could find states 5 seconds which Gaijin chose.

There are several secondary sources that claim the 5s, aswell as ambiguous primary soreces that just claim under 6s it was not just balancing, the thing is i havent seen a sinlge one that supports a 4s reload further than some guessing. It isnt just a balancing only thing they need to have some documentaton behind it.

They only take primary sources, so by that logic as long as its lower than 6 seconds, it’s fine. Type 90 has been documented at 10 rounds per minute but it got 4 second reload instead of 6 seconds.

The type 90 does have lower documented reloads, so does the type 10 which we do have evidence of sub 4s cycles

Don’t you see that there’s so much ambiiguity around autoloader fire rates. Gaijin chooses a number in that range as a balancing mechanism. Just like how T-series got the. reload rate done in the best condition recently.

You realize that the cyclogram are primary sources right ? They are also not in best conditions either, they do account for operator delay and gun movement.

i never said they weren’t? They just chose the reload rate that was done in the best condition.