Subtree Rework - Nation Folders

Maybe only if it’s limited to post 2014 vehicles, otherwise it sounds kinda weird considering Ukraine was part of USSR itself.

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Really interesting to see what they are cooking.

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Been thinking about this again, even more so with the sharp increase in complaints about sub-trees and their placements, with the Dutch getting their first F-16 in an event.

This is so needed, even more so, so we don’t have unbalanced additions that lead to cases like that.

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It’s just an all round better system than what we have.
Gaijin would gain favour by listening, but they wont. Stubborn as usual.

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That’s a very good suggestion, and something really needs to be done about it. Australian tanks are in America, but their planes are in England. My head is spinning; everything is so confusing.

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only one is in USA and its the M1A1 AIM, all the othel aussie tanks are in the UK one the premium 5.3, the prem centurion and the CRV block 2 (i think i am missing same)

Ya, nations like Australia (even if it’s one of the better treated homeless nations) need to have their treatment dealt with.

Better treated as, every land vehicle but the AIM is in the UK (Matilda Hedgehog, AC I, AC IV, Cent 5/1, Boxer CRV (Land 400)). Even if most are event vehicles, so there is another problem with that.
But Australia and Canada, by number of vehicles, are the examples you don’t want your nation treated like, well, 90% of sub-trees, showing it’s not a way you want a nation to be treated as either in their current form.

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Why is this guy trying to rub one out🤨

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just rename the TT in British Empire or Commonwealth of Nations to have Britain, India, Canada, Australia, NZ (bob semple), and South Afrika together

Yeah that doesn’t work, and will only make everyone mad. Not enough space in the tree. This is why this suggestion is so important. For all tech trees.

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Pakistan just had another vehicle announced, their F-6C!

While this is another interesting Pakistani aircraft, being an export modification of the Chinese J-6 with improved suspended ordnance, this is also another step back into Pakistan being a paywalled nation after previously at least getting a few squadron vehicles.

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Pakistan first got their entry to the game with the premium A-5C, then the JF-17 was added later as the first free option, at least for players in squadrons. Still there is no techtree options for Pakistan.

Ground

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Their ground roster looks very similar to air, once again with a premium in the Al-Khalid-I, an event vehicle in the T-80UD/BE and a squadron Oplot-M as the only free option for players in squadrons.

Helicopters

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Only helicopters so far lack a free option completely, with the Pakistani Mi-35M being a premium helicopter, and the only one in game from Pakistan.

Sadly this sets up Pakistan as a case similar to Finland, with many of their unique vehicles locked to soon to be past events and premium spots before they had a chance to appear in the techtree.

While I understand many Chinese players actively asked to focus on Chinese vehicles in the techtree instead, and this is just following popular demand, it clearly shows the limitations of the current system. Gaijin shouldn’t need to choose between China or Pakistan, both deserve proper growth and representation potential.

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It’s too bad, that plane would’ve been the best option at rank 6 for a Pakistani subtree. Now they’d have a hole there

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Is Pakistan considered a sub tree or just a filler nation atm? Because I don’t remember a announcement for them being a sub tree.

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Ambiguous. They confirmed Pakistan has a fixed home in the Chinese tree, so it’s a “subtree” in the sense that “A nation is placed with B nation”, but really not all subtrees are created equal and Pakistan is still stuck in that phase where everything they get is in the premium section.

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I’m a bit sad they didn’t go with this kind of setup, it’s a great suggestion this one, especially for the convenience of adding additional nations to a “folder” where it might need reinforcement. Also it allows for additional larp instead of just the “Look, I have this particular flag up” for those that look at the scoreboard during the match or after the match.

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