I’m so hyped I really hope we get submarines!!!
Looking at the alleged leak list, it says pre-order and main tree. So it is possible that gaijin add one sub for each nation and then some special ones as pre-orders with camo and stuff.
But we are really pulling this out of thin air. We need to wait for more dovblegs and dev stream. Especially russian one, because of what BVVD said in last one.
There is no actual leak list currently, just some wishlists formatted to look like leak lists :)
Hmmm i primarily worry about our lack of underwater speed. Though compensating with better stealth and deeper diving conditions as well as systems would be nice.
Amphions do seem promising and post-war subs too are quite a bit more competitive than I thought if you exclude any thoughts of the super classes like the Type XXI and I-401 I-201.
But it depends also on the years you compare, British subs that I’m comparing are being compared to some of their peak counterparts in other navies, but those ships are often 1 offs or small classes, so I could see the much better comparative example a Super T modification from 1950 of a Batch 3 T class submarine with a Type XXI. Or even a Batch 3 T compared with a Balao or a Tench.
It seems looking into things even more (though slowly as I hadn’t considered that Submarine development would be just as, if not more convoluted than capital ship development). There’s a number of modernisation’s made for royal navy boats which would be nice too.
Hard to compare for me yet whilst i’m still researching them, but certainly less bleak than I thought.
I agree though I-401 may not be so super besides in size. Depending on how subs are implemented it will make or break naval. My thing I am looking forward to is midget subs and piggy back espionage subs.
That’s my own silly confusion, I meant the I-201 given its 19 knot underwater speed.
I don’t think I-400s would be overpowered in any way. They can’t launch aircraft while submerged so it’s not like they can spam Seirans forever while undetected. They have good torpedoes but not better than other Japanese subs, and they carry a lot of them, but if reload speeds are realistic that won’t make much of a difference. Their surface and submerged speeds are not exceptional, their test depth isn’t exceptional, their deck armament is good but not better than large coastal vessels.
It ought to be in the game, but it’s not some kind of incredible vehicle that should dominate the meta.
Edit: ah i see
That is going to be the toughest thing to balance around. I think Gaijin isn’t going to follow the path of the Other Game and should have realistic (at least in RB, proportionally increased in Arcade) submerged speeds.
The best solution to this in my opinion would be to have multiple spawn locations for subs scattered throughout the map, so that they can deploy closer to better ambush locations.
They where known to be not very maneuverable but they did have some sound reduction and sound absorption tile technology that was very classified for the longest of time. Also you can go dive off of Hawaii to see her if you got the skill and equipment to do so.
That seems to be the best way to implement there spawn ability. They are ambush creatures after all but capping a point should require you coming to the surface or caps need to be overhauled in how they work for naval. My God spawning as well.
Slow speed is great balance for the fact that you are more or less indestructible while submerged for anyone who isnt directly above you.
That’s if Gaijin doesn’t implement all of the ASROC launchers on the ships that have them in-game.
They wont. pre-cold war submarines doesnt have any countermeasures against such systems.
Any sort of experimental decoy systems?
The germans started using decoys in 1941, so maybe
I’d like to believe so, but it wouldn’t be the first time Gaijin added weapon systems to the game that other vehicles at the same BR couldn’t counter.
Alcasalzer in a barrel is decoy against hydrophones not sonar from 60’s
Yea, when I brought it up I was in my naval rework mindset, and my rework has aircraft carriers that can launch squad of planes that you can control( so like ai following your leadplane)
Im starting to doubt subs will come in this update fellas :( I think they would mention something like that in Community update…
More likely in the december update