To be frank, all of that would be tied to the way submarines would be implemented, if they’ll get their own game mode, how it will all work and all the concessions Gaijin will be willing to make to make them “viable” in naval battles. Because I’m almost certain they won’t exactly correspond to the reality of the game, starting with dive and surfacing times… Although I do agree with you that the Surcouf will be a different experience from usual subs, it would be a force to recon with, especially if it faces smaller ships like destroyers and below.
A sub only mode would be a major change. Its also extremely unlikey to happen.
The big guns hitbhard, but they will alos have Battkeshio reloads ornworse, likited traverses, and far less ability to point and shoot when you have turn the while sub rather than just the turret.
Even the smallest ships, and most coastals, wouldnt find a surfaced sub any more difficult than any other target, and Monitor type subs lack the advantage of low profiles of their conventional cousins.
Artificial performance boosts will only take you so far.
My point in any case was that we’ll have to see how Gaijin implements them before seeing how well each kind of subs fit in their vision.
True, but releasing outliers from the many submarine varieties won’t help in early live testing, especially if it’s essentially a meme vehicle that people will play even if it has severe operational limitations. It will simply skew the data.
This is why i predict a later event release with trees starting with pre-war through ww2 era convoy hunters, followed by later hunter-killers. These are more of a straight line development over time rather than sideways moves that ultimately went nowhere.
I wouldn’t call the Surcouf a “meme vehicle with severe operational limitations”, but for the rest I completely agree with you. Let’s stick to the basic to refine the gameplay before looking to unique designs.
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Surcouf belongs to the category of Cruiser Submarine and are far less flexible that smaller patrol or coastal types, especially as her turret is unusable when submerged and is certainly limted when surfaced. WT may not fully replicate life but buffs can only take things so far.
Imo it really is nothing more than a meme, although unlike many examples one that may actually be worth adding in the long term as ‘limited’ is not ‘useless’ as she still has torpedos, albeit the lack speed and maneuverability and the necessary higher BR with those 14" guns means you’ll have to keep your distance. Likely RB would be her mode, AB being too dangerous.
I-400 is also an must have. Have you played Battlestations Pacific?
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A meme yes, but I would totally buy surcouf if/when it arrives
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most pt boats have dropped depth charges not launched ones
Yes that is what I said - so you speed across the front of the target at very close range and drop depth charges on a 2-3 second timer - then they sail over them and BOOM!
You can also scrape along he side and drop them but then only the ones from 1 side will be efffective.
I tried to play this mission [ WT Live // Model by Polaska001 ].But the game just keeps crashing .Did gaijin changed the code about submarines or there’s something wrong with my own game?
at 20miles and hour compared to a MTB that goes 45? yea sure
Err… yes indeed why not… why do you think an MTB doing twice the speed NOT be able to do this??🤷♀️
Sure - must be. XDDD
It will be a perfect target: big and slow for easy counterattack of escort ships or planes.
most mtb dont have launched depth charges
Still no submarine.
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I mean I don’t know what you’re waiting for, this is the first time the devs have 100% confirmed that they are working on submarines.
It was a reasonable assumption up until now based on the behind-the-scenes work that dataminers have uncovered, but now we know for certain.
Let’s get HYPED
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today is a good day, hope has been restored
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Beautiful Gato class is coming closer it seems!!
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yeah i’m so gutted, and they have confirmed that submarines are coming but it’s looking like 2025 (sigh)
Exact Quote
Q: Submarines were tested some years ago. Are there any plans to add playable Submarines to naval battles, or in some form to the game?
A: Yes, we have plans for playable submarines, but no further details on this yet.
What im not happy about it this statement
Q: Bluewater fleet trees are mostly seeing the addition of pre-WWI, WWI and WWII ships. Will we eventually see Cold War or modern ships in 2025?
A: The game already has ships from the Cold War era, but more modern weapons such as long-range anti-ship missiles and all their accompanying mechanics look like a rather difficult challenge to implement in a real-time online PvP game. So at the moment, we can’t yet give exact forecasts or even guarantees that something like this will appear in War Thunder.
What’s the point of giving helicopters planes and tanks, more modern platforms and saying no to ships, its ridiculous, they are involved in another game called Modern Warfare, which actually does this exact thing, stop with the BS Gaijin