Submarines - WT Discussion

Silent running? Like cyclops?

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Silent running is a way to remain as stealth as possible, especially against passive sonars.
Against active sonars the best way is still to use thermoclines i believe (brutal change of temperature and salinity in the water, which curves the sound’s path, like light through glass, and make it possible to find blind spots to a surface active sonar for example)

That’s why going top speed in a submarine isn’t really a situation you want to be in. It generates a lot of noise because of :

  • cavitation (also dependent on depth)
  • noise due to the water sliding along the hull

You basically give your position away to everyone, while “blinding”, or shall i say “making deaf” your own sonar arrays

K222, an old soviet sub for example, made a speed run at 44.7 knots, but apparently that made the control room very noisy (steam locomotive kind of noisy)

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Britain would get the amphion class (which is roughly equivalent to the type XXI) or the porpoise class (which was very much influenced by the type XXI). Russia would get the whiskey class imo.

Yes it was ‘the same’ iirc - well, similar principle, with hydrogen peroxide being described as the ‘fuel’ in both cases, although it’s actually the oxidiser, allowing combustion without the need for any atmospheric oxygen (useful underwater and at high altitude).

I think Walter originally had the idea for submarine propulsion and the aircraft/missile engines were a spin off. However, it was only the aviation applications which saw combat, as none of the Walter boats saw action before the war ended. I always thought the idea was pretty cool and ingenious compared to the standard submarine tech of the day; the RN tried the idea post-war, but abandoned it because the hydrogen peroxide - even in a ‘stabilized’ form used in the Walter boats - was deemed far too flammable for use in a combat vessel.

However, as far as WT is concerned the boats did exist and had been tested before being scuttled at the end of WW2.

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More excited for this than I-400 honestly big subs are just gonna be sitting ducks i rather have a smaller faster more nimble sub that plus the IJN Type 95 will be second best to the long lance.

Yeeeaaah but having submarine carriers like the I-400 are a win either way and only a sitting duck near periscope depth or surfaced like all subs. I think it’s going to be hilarious to surface near friendly ships when your the length of destroyers.

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It’ll be fun but not practical in terms of meta or being useful other then maybe using your planes to cap points.

They also had torpedos. So I am unsure how they would not be functional as actual submarines. The scout aircraft are just an addition.

The same can be said for scout aircraft on any vehicle currently and they are used by players for distracting AA, capping points and gaining sight advantage/scouting behind tall terrain to check out where the enemy ships are just before confrontation.

Submarines in general will be limited to their visibiliy of ships underwater with their hydrophones. The only option is to use active sonar pings but every ship (which is most) ingame will be able to see your location on the map.

So Submarines with deployable scout aircraft will be a great leg up above other submarines ingame, making it easier to coordinate travel to get to enemy ships.

If anything they become more practical compared to regular submarines ingame.

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not the Nautilus lol

The Type IX and I-400 are my top picks 😁

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I’ll honestly be happy with even a Type IID

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Why not 3D?

Jk :D

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talking of which i wonder how hydrophones will (if they ever come) be implemented

Could EASILY use the Radar system overaly? Except instead of Radar it’s if your close enough to an object making sounds at different engine rpm and speed, you can see the return stronger or fainter with direction.

correct me if i’m wrong, bur aren’t hydrophones “pointable” in one direction at a time on WW2 submarines ?

In truth i have the “das boot” movie in mind, with operator slowly turning it with its hand to follow enemy contacts, but maybe it was badly portrayed (possible but unlikely) or i understood it incorrectly

Thats not a good defence. If you are at a depth where you can be on the ocean floor, depth charges can be used against you aswell since you won’t be in the crush depth for those charges.

The problem arises with reflection of shockwaves. If you have a depth charge detonate next to you, though normally you might at a distancd only get a small amount of pressure shockwave againdt the hull (damage or no damage), when lying on the ocean floor an amount of shockwave will reflect off the floor and potentially into your hull aswell.

It may not be a great increase except for very close ranges, but lying on the floor like you suggest is counter acting survivability as a strategy.

i think it renders you a bit less detectable to asdic though.

A bit like a bush doesn’t protect you once a shell is in the air, but makes you harder to spot

Is there any news about the addition of submarines?

Around the time of the last major update, a few new commands and parameters to do with sensors were found via datamine.

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