Su35 already in game

The su35 is already in GAME…well not technically but it kinda is…
When the SU30SM2 was added to the game i thought well daaamn the su35 aint far off if this is being added when they are basically almost identical in everything betweeen them

ROLES DIFFERENCES
The su30sm2 is a twin seater multirole “super flanker”.Its roles includes maritime strikes , air superiority , ground strikes and long range interception.While the su35s(single sitter) role is air superiority and long range interception.

WEAPON DIFFERENCES
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/541787547
The site above states the su30sm2 is capable of carrying the r77m …which i think is possibly since the su30sm2 is a plane that comes after the su35 in production.
both flankers share the following weapon systems
For air to AIR
R77M, R77-1, R73, R73M, R74 R37M both flankers have 12 hardpoints
Also found a source claimng the su35 can field the Ks-172 missile, nothing on the su30sm2 so probably the only difference
Su-35BM (Bolshaya Modernizatsiya - Big Modernization)
ANTI SHIP
On the su30sm2 Kh-31A, Kh-35
on the su35 Kh-31A, Kh-35, Kh-59MK, PJ-10 BrahMos, 3M55 Onyx
GROUND ATTACK
For ground strikes i have found the both use the exact same weaponry including the modular KH38 weapon system(modular means the seeker can be swapped from laser to an ir one so technically the kh38mt exist for those who call it a Brochure missile depends what the customer asks for).Also a ukrainian site mentioned the possibility of su30sm2 being able to employ the Kh-47M2 Kinzhal hypersonic missiles
Belarus Receives Advanced Russian Su-30SM2 Fighters—What It Means for NATO — UNITED24 Media

PAYLOAD
Both flankers from what i have found are capable of carrying up to 8000kgs(for both flankers) and a takeoff weight of 34500kg on the su30sm2 and same for the su35
Su-35BM (Bolshaya Modernizatsiya - Big Modernization)
mitchellaerospacepower.org/weapons/su-35/

ENGINES
They are both powered by the advanced AL-41F-1S engine. The su35 despite sharing the same engines as the su30sm2 is faster at a reported mach 2.25 while the su30sm2 can get to about mach 2 due the the additional seat and the canards increasing the drag.
RADAR ,IRST AND MAWS
They both share the Irbis-E PESA and the OLS-35 irst systems .
For the maws i could not find anything on the su30sm2 but the su35 comes equipped with the I-222 Optical MAWS(uses 6 infrared and 2 laser sensors for 360° coverage)

FLIGHT SYSTEMS
The su35 uses the The KSU-35 flight system which seamlessly controls the aircraft’s control surfaces, engine thrust, and 3D thrust vectoring nozzles. The system incorporates automatic flight control modes, automatic obstacle collision avoidance, and can even assist with in-flight refueling, reducing pilot workload
KSU-35 INTEGRATED FLIGHT CONTROL SYSTEM
The su30sm2 i found this site which list the difference between the sm2 and the sm that states the sm2 uses a FBW system “UNIFIED” with the one on the su35
Su-30SM2 fighter – unification with Su-35S » Russian aviation

CONCLUSION
The two flankers are different but the differences are so little.Mainly the roles ,the anti ship weapons employed, the ks-172 anti AWACS and the MAWS if i have missed anything feel free to enlighten me.

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yeah only relevant thing su-35 is gonna add is maws. other than that it’s the same as su-30sm2 for in game purposes.

Oh yeah, and it has better top speed and acceleration.

i still hope they add the su35 its such an iconic aircraft

is it weird i knew id see you here

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does the SM2 ingame have the OLS-35 tho? doesnt it still use the OLS-30 as the normal SM

nope from what i have found the su30sm2 uses the OLS-35 as it was meant to replace the OLS-30 found on the sm

Agree, the Su-30sm2 stole the show from the Su-35 by taking it’s biggest upgrades, which are of course the engines and radar.

Fun fact, the SM2, aside from missing 14 chaff/flare (higher CM amount than Su35 for a total of 112), also has an open RWR report that could potentially give it spherical coverage, if that were to be the case the main advantages of the Su-35 would only be the MAW and OLS 35.

This also raises the question, will the Su-30SM2 get the weapons it could actually carry and have it’s BR raised appropriately? I do want a variable BR system implemented based on weapon loadouts and modules equipped, but we haven’t got it for now even if vehicles exist that could really benefit from it.

Also, I feel the Su-35 will inevitably be adored cause of the reduced weight and drag along with the R-77M and R-74M that it’ll probably get.

smacks only R73 on Su30SM2 mmm 12.7

su35 would probably get the next gen IR missiles and that would be about it in armament unless they add tthe r77m

r-37m

How would it have better acceleration

no canards = less drag

less drag = better accel

The SU-35 is cooler looking and can’t it use R-77Ms? That and the R-74s will probably distinguish the two.

they both use the same air to air weapons…the su35 is older than the su30sm2…su35 2012 i believe and the su30sm2 2019…what what i found they share same air to air weapons

Boy do i hae a news for you. Su-35S is actually HEAVIER than Su-30SM

It also has much better surface cover overall, with bunch of sticking out sensors removed and probably some improvements to the cover itself as well.

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I find that to be strange, that’s according to the wikipedia page? Someone should look at a brochure for it if it exists.

what a reinforced airframe, more fuel and a RAM coating does to an airframe

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and with this right here you can aproximate the empty weight of the Su-35
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normal takeoff fuel load for the flankers is 50% of max fuel load

so 5750kg

2x RVV-AE + 2x R-73E weigh 564kg
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25,300kg - 5750kg - 564kg = 18,986kg

Su-30SM weighs 18,800kg empty

Spoiler

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