Su30SM is underwhelming

Lmao fr tho, both sides of the isle hype it up. The amount of people saying “gib Aim-120C” when they saw the R-77-1 being added was hilarious. Even funnier when I asked which variant of the C they wanted and they replied with “variants” or “just the regular Aim-120C” lmaooo.

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SU-30SM has R-27ET, therefore we should get ASRAAM for long ranged IR missiles :P

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It matters alot. The F-16C has a worse loadout than the Tornado F.3 late, but the F-16 is 0.7 higher. The 11.0 Sea Harrier has 4 Aim-9Ls, and the 12.3 F-16A has only 2 more.

And don’t forget about the F/A-18C late with 10 Aim-120s and 2 9Ms.

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F16c is one of the woret 13.7(only beat by shittier f16s) in the game. Its flight perfomance is good, it doesn’t make up for the small loadout. Id rather fly the su27sm over it which is saying alot. R77 isnt great but i have 6 r77s 2 r27ets and 4 r73s. Loadout matters more than perfomance in arb.

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Replays are BUGGY as all hell! does not show the proper amount of counters, just like it shows that I still have my AoA limiter on but I pull the crazy AoA because it is off.

no its not lmao its been a blast to play for me

its been funny af in my experience, I’ve won plenty of dogfights.

I think it’s fine rn

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lol mega cope?

This is not an agreed upon consensus

If you want to be a Blind man you play the Su-27SM over the Su-30SM…the radar alone is NIGHT and DAY!!! Even with the lower powered engines it’s one of the best top tier jets…when you make it to the end of matches…you can easily do the below to stragglers!

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Glad I’m not the only one who shares this feeling

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I think it was overestimated to begin with

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Lets agree to disgree

The engines are rather underwhelming but i still do extremely well in it since it has 12 R-77-1 and 2 R-73. But it definitely isn’t a plane to dogfight in.

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Huh? There’s more tabs than ARB, want to try again?

It isn’t. It’s almost a direct upgrade in every category to the 27SM, which guess what? It’s competitive too!

The only thing that makes the AIM-120 aircraft good is the average cro-magnan ARB player is too stupid to defeat an ARH. It just so happens the AIM-120 is the most ubiquitous missile in the game so it makes most of the kills. If you look at what actually makes an ARH good, the only thing it has going for it is extreme long range. It has the worst maneuvering envelope, the worst time to target, and it doesn’t even make up for these extremes with incredible magazine depth like the R-77 carriers.

And they shouldn’t have done that either. If they wanted to make an SM3, then it should be a foldered vehicle or a mod that straight up turns the jet into the SM3. The current SM should lose the double pylons, and engines. SM3 mod or folder should have both of those and and upgraded radar.

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This for the F-15C is more real than the Su-27SM double pylon or engine from the SM3, since it’s actually an F-15C.

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Not that it needs it.

I’m well aware of the history of the F-15E and it’s engines. Not only are a majority of them -229 jets, they have been produced new with the -229 engines since 1990. None of that is relevant to the F-15E in-game however as the whole reason it has -229 engines is because they released it, and in the devblog said “hey, we don’t want to have it be a straight upgrade to the F-15C in both A2A and A2G” and the next day the F-15I was unveiled which was a straight upgrade to the F-15Cs in both A2A and A2G. Hardly anyone would have said anything if they hadn’t have just made a complete 180 on their rationale by adding the F-15I as well, which is also a direct upgrade to the F-15E anyway but yet I never hear any complaints about that, only the US one. Frankly a -220 jet with LANTIRN, no HMD, and no SDBs would have been fine if they also added one with -229, (at minimum LITENING) Sniper XR, SDBs, and LJDAMs at the same time or in the next update.

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You do not tell me what the F-15E does and does not do with its CFT configuration. Especially not when one of the jets was doing it with my name on it, bud.

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Because it cant?

You really hit that
“Source? I AM the source”

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Goddamn i didnt think they ciuld pull that haed in close range.

F15 aesa when?

f15 active when?

The goat

No the su30sm only has the upgraded su27 engines the al31fp but it misses 40% of its lifts thats why its such a brick