Su30 and Su34 SP cost

[wie63s]

Since when is the cost to spawn the Su34 after you die in the Su30 with Kh38MTs doubled? It used to be cheaper to spawn but now to spawn a 2nd CAS plane the cost is 1500+ SP when it used to be around 900 as theyre different plane classes

[TomLiu126]

This was changed in the “Tusk Force” update last September:

@Stona_WT

The rules for calculating the Spawn Point (SP) cost for spawning a second or subsequent aircraft in Ground Realistic and Naval Battles have been changed. The SP multiplier for a second aircraft spawn no longer depends on the aircraft’s class (e.g., fighter, attacker). Instead, it is determined by the loadout of the prior aircraft that was spawned. Aircraft spawns are now categorized into two types based on the aircraft’s loadout: “Anti-Air” (Aircraft equipped with air-to-air missiles, and with no secondary armament, including cannon belts with 40 mm of penetration or more) and “Strike Aircraft” (Aircraft equipped with bombs, rockets, air-to-surface missiles, torpedoes, mines, or cannon belts with 40 mm of penetration or more).

[wie63s]

So I take it now there’s no point in taking both the Su30sm2 and su34 for russia top tier ground?

[TheDudesRug]

Have you thought about using ground vehicles, sir

[UnHolySausage]

Here i wonder why did gaijin stop endorsing skill issue

[Beeschurger]

You can use Su30 for CAP and Su34 for CAS.

[ron_23]

or he can play ground vehicles in ground battles

[An_Pigeon]

he can use his combined arms, in the combined arms game.

Which it is. Realistic ground wars have air craft involved.

[An_Pigeon]

@TheDudesRug

Have you thought about using ground vehicles, sir

I’m assuming to spawn said air vehicles he at least used some form of ground vehicle.

[ron_23]

@An_Pigeon

Realistic ground wars

realistic ground wars are not fought in a 1km x 1km area

[racimazzedine]

You can do that with su30 and heli mi28 combo.

Helis are not affected

[UnHolySausage]

He can use combined arms ofc but rewarding skill issue Is another factor

[Beeschurger]

CAP isnt neccesarily as cancerous as CAS (on the contrary, it decreases a chance of succesful CAS sortie) so it gets a pass.

[Kievskiy_Minipig]

There is point. Su30sm2 for more and better aam, su34 for fab3000umpk

[An_Pigeon]

@wie63s

So I take it now there’s no point in taking both the Su30sm2 and su34 for russia top tier ground?

Use one for air to air, taking down their CAS aka CAP , and the other for CAS with ground ordinance

@ron_23

realistic ground wars are not fought in a 1km x 1km area

Nor is warthunder, especially at the top BRs where most maps are up to 16KM²

@UnHolySausage

He can use combined arms ofc but rewarding skill issue Is another factor

Not a skill issue to use a plane in the time of the game in which there is the most oppressive SPAA ever seen in the game.
It’s actually a challange to use CAS now adays.

[TheDudesRug]

@An_Pigeon

I’m assuming to spawn said air vehicles he at least used some form of ground vehicle.

Obviously, but he’s getting shot down and then scraping the SP barrel to try spawn another jet. So he’ll get shot down again and he’ll be out of the game. Leaving his team one person down. Spawn a vehicle, instead.

[An_Pigeon]

@TheDudesRug

Obviously, but he’s getting shot down and then scraping the SP barrel to try spawn another jet. So he’ll get shot down again and he’ll be out of the game. Leaving his team one person down. Spawn a vehicle, instead.

He could do more than that right enough.
I’ve no qualms with someone trying to spawn a plane once n getting rattled down. Big issue with USA and Russia at the upper echelons of the game right now is that they get so fixated on CAS, be it planes or helis, and then lose the actual ground game.

The mount of times I’ve been with a russian team and seen like 3 or 4 Su25s, Su34s or what not getting taken down then they leave or spawn another plane as you say and die again then leave is ridiculous. same for US teams with the weird obsession with F15s lol.
You end up losing a quarter of the team to dying in their planes and not having enough to respawn with.

You and I have spoken several times as well about spawns n such :D

[ChilliWolf6-live]

Well apparently he done that spent 900sp that he got from being better than the entire enemy team and then died to op spaa spam that not even 6 kh38s reliably counter cause of iron dome meta

[Midakolol]

good, ground battles for ground vehicles

[小小格温大受影响]

KH38 only 900sp is unfair