SU-76i (SU-S-1) - A very sussy TD.

Would you like to see this in-game?
  • Yes, as a tech tree vehicle.
  • Yes, as an event vehicle.
  • Yes, as a squadron vehicle.
  • No
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What BR should this be in?
  • 2.0
  • 2.3
  • 2.7
  • 3.0
  • 3.3
  • 3.7
  • I said no.
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Which variants should be added?
  • SU-76i
  • SU-76i Command Vehicle
  • Sturmgeschütz SU-76i (r) (German captured)
  • None
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SU-76I / SU-S-1

The SU-76I (the “I” stands for “Inostrannaya” or “Foreign”) was a Soviet SPG built on the chassis of captured German Panzer III and StuG III. It was armed with the 76.2mm S-1 gun. Approximately 181 standard vehicles and 20 command variants were produced during the war.

History:

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In early 1943, the SU-76 was suffering severe transmission failures. The issue was so critical that production was halted entirely until a fix could be found. Needing immediate fire support vehicles, the State Defense Committee (GKO) issued Decree #2758 on January 18th, 1943. This decree ordered Factory №37, №592, and the Kashtanov Design Bureau to create a stopgap SPG using the hundreds of captured Pz.III and StuG III chassis, available after the Battle of Stalingrad.

The result was the SU-76I . It was a significant redesign of the earlier experimental SG-122. Instead of the 122mm howitzer, engineers installed the 76.2mm S-1 (C-1) which was a simplified, cheaper version of the F-34 gun.

Initially, designers considered a semi open pedestal mount similar to Italian tank destroyers. However, this design left the crew dangerously exposed to shrapnel and small arms fire. The final design opted for a fully enclosed, welded casemate superstructure with a bolted roof plate.

The prototype was tested on March 6th, 1943, at Sverdlovsk. The gun have a -5°/+15° vertical guidance and ±10° horizontal traverse. The vehicle retained the Maybach HL120 TRM engine. The crew of four (driver, commander, gunner, loader) had access to PPSh submachine guns for defense, which could be fired through ports in the superstructure.

By November 1943, 201 vehicles had been converted. They saw combat on the Eastern Front, including at Kursk. As Soviet production stabilized (with the SU-76M), the SU-76I was gradually withdrawn in 1944 and relegated to training units.

Command variant: The command variant was fitted with the Pz.III cupola and the left-side ammo racks were removed to accommodate a high-power radio.

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Beutepanzer variant: This one is particularly interesting. In late 1943, the Soviets knocked out a German SPG, and upon inspection, it was discovered to be an Su-76I. This makes it a double recapture.


SU-76i from 128 Pz.Jg.Abt. 23 Pz.Div. December, 1943

Currently, only 2 vehicles survive : one serves as a monument in Sarny, Ukraine, and a restored example resides in the Poklonnaya Gora Museum in Moscow. Additionally, a replica is displayed at the UMMC Museum of Military Equipment near Yekaterinburg

Specification:

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Dimensions:
Length: 6 900 mm.
Width: 2 910 mm.
Height: 2 375 mm.
Clearance: 350 mm.

Weight: 22 500 kg.
Crews: 4 (driver, commander, gunner, loader)
Engine: 12-cylinder Maybach HL120 TRM, 296 bhp
Top road speed 50 km/h
Hull Armor Front 30 mm, sides 30 mm, rear 20 mm.
Upper Armor Front 35 mm, sides 25 mm, rear and roof 15 mm.

Armaments:

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76.2mm gun S-1 (C-1), (96 rounds): BR-350A (MD-5 fuze), BR-350B (MD-8 fuze), BR-350SP, BR-354P, BP-353A, OF-350M, Sh-354T, D-350A.
Vertical: -5°/+15°
Horizontal: ±10°
2x submachine gun PPSH, (994 ammo, 14 drums).

In game:
In game this would be a great low tier SPGs for USSR tech tree, it could be foldered with the SU-122 or a low tier event vehicle.
Photos:

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SU-76i in the Central Museum of the Great Patriotic War 1941 - 1945

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A whole album on the Sarny surviving example can be found here.

Sources:

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Weapon stories. SU-76i: the first assault
SU-76i - Tank Encyclopedia
https://www.tankarchives.ca/2013/12/su-76i.html
https://www.tankarchives.ca/2016/01/su-76i-in-combat.html
СУ-76И - уникальная самоходка в Сарнах: starcom68 — LiveJournal
SU-76i Red Army Soviet WW2 76.2mm Self Propelled Gun preserved in Moscow

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+1 amogus

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+2, 1 for soviet tech tree, and another for German premium.

Br of 2.3 because of bad armour, and mid gun. It performs similar to the SU-76D

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This has long been on my wantlist for the game, along with the SG-122 (same idea but using the 122mm M-30 howitzer as found on the SU-122). +1

Planning to do another suggestion for the SG-122A too, feel like that gonna be the prem counterpart of the Su-76i.

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+1, Premium and 3.0-3.3

Looking forward to it!

That is a bit too high.

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Nice suggestion +1

I believe the armor thickness for this suggestion needs to be adjusted.

Another Tank Archives article has blueprints of both command and standard tanks, and while the article states that production vehicles differed in several ways from the plans we at least have a better glimpse at the armor profile.

It’s noted the gun mount was very similar to the existing one for the F-34, and with a bit of inference it seems safe to assume the front of the mantlet is 45mm. According to the plans this would make the superstructure even thicker, possibly the 60mm mentioned in the article?

But it’s worth noting the Pz. III hull depicted seems to have 30mm of armor, just from visually gauging it. Someone with enough time may be able to pixel count the appropriate thicknesses.

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Yes, the gun mount is probly around that thickness and + the gun shield it would probly add up to 60mm.

Actually i kinda forgot to mention that while some vehicles used early Pz. III hull for conversion which only have 30mm of hull armor, later on many other late model Pz. III were captured and converted which have 50mm hull instead.

+1 any differences between the base variant and the command + German variants?

Command version has a slighty taller profile due to the cupola and a bit less ammo, otherwise no differences. The German captured vehicle is a standard Su-76I with no extra modifications, although in Ghostmaxi’s post it is suggested that it’s capable of using German 76mm ammunition with extra penetration.

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I could see this working as a folder vehicle, maybe this would be a lower br than the standard one?