Su-57's radar suite is actually better, F-22 is ageing badly. [Not Ragebait]

When did I say it was an evacuation exercise? Oh wait, I didn’t.

In fact I literally said this: (which you ignored because you want to strawman me)

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“This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.” well well well

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Once again i log on only to get my braincells fried on here

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It’s an interesting read, +1 for being brave enough to post it here lol

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learn some reading skills. the russian commentary on the parade said that it was an evacuation exercise
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Topic has been reopened, please post non-offtopic comments, aka things that contribute to it, including images, sources, and so on

And please try to avoid mentioning conflicts

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Are there sources confirming the rear radar N036kh?

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dont get me wrong, i find the comparison interesting. but i dont see the point of this since nothing meaningful is known for sure about either radar.

we can await results on F-35 vs Su-57 testing in India to see how US radar compare to Russian one, but wont see for F-22

As of the beginning of 2025, there are 30 production Su-57s and 10 Experimental ones in total = 40 units…
Russia has a small Air Force but a large air defense!..The quantitative composition has not changed in the last 30 years, it is +/- 600 units of fighter/fighter bomber class aircraft…

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Since 2025, only the Su-57M with AL-51F1…
The new engine has a Composite inlet guide device (VNA), the composite VNA on the new engine does not negate the presence of a radar blocker. On the old one, this VNA was metal with a radio-absorbing coating… Показана снижающая заметность решётка в воздухозаборнике истребителя Су-57

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The addition of Side antennas is actually interesting, dk how practical it is irl. But isn’t the L-Band antenna only for IFF?

Also anyone can ELI5 how an AESA IFF antenna works? Apparently it was integrated in the Su-35 and 30SM2

http://su57.mariwoj.pl/su57-index.html

“This module is not confirmed yet”

I’ve read that as well. The leading edge L-band being for IFF, not for practical detection because they’re supposedly low-power in a system (the aircraft) that already has to dedicate power to many other electronics, especially the higher powered forward-looking radar.
I have not seen brochures or more official sources confirming that information, though.

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It wasn’t

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That its mostly on Su-35s. Su-57 use one more advance. Assessing the Tikhomirov NIIP L-Band Active Electronically Steered Array This paper is about the Su-35s L band radar. Yea its a bit underpower for a L-band. But it can work and seriously why would some manufacture build a IFF so big and complex? that just don’t make sense.

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Temeraire reply: I’ve read on those antennas working for other stuff as well (interference for satellite, etc.).
My personal opinion is that those modern systems probably can divert power to whatever is needed, as needed, to work at 100% power (or over) while some other less important system runs at a lower power. Of course, that’s speculation on my part, but if I were designing aircraft systems nowadays, it’s certainly a route I’d explore. Sounds kinda obvious but then I remember companies only started putting decent radar symbology and color coding when it was already F22 days.

Dude posting meme above:
As for the YF23 meme. Yeah, according to sources worth listening to, it was a stealthier design. And it’s not like there weren’t changes made from the YF23 to F23, we have some unclassified drawings and there were lots of changes adopted – DSI included, which we would only see from LM in the F35. The F22 used splitter plates for boundary layer control, which is known to be a worse solution for stealth.
Besides, the ATF LM/YF22 also had problems and applied several solutions proposed by the YF23 for the production F22.
I won’t dwell on those because it’s off-topic

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