The Su-57 performs well at air shows. All those aerobatic maneuvers would look great at a Red Bull event. But dogfighting has been outdated for a long time. That’s no longer what matters. What everyone cares about now is stealth and advanced technology.
Nobody has bought the Su-57 in 12 years. That alone tells you everything you need to know about this aircraft. Not India, not Myanmar — nobody. Zero.
ty goat for speaking the truth
development take time, you should know, if you dont, dont try speak.
f22 program started in 1986, with the yf22 first flight in 1991 and first f22 in 1997.
11 years for the f22 is okay
12 years for the su57 is bad and horrible.
holy no brain moment.
i don’t necessarily disagree, but a major caveat is that a ton of russian planes & tanks perform well on paper, not in practice - it’s also just a major component of russian military doctrine lol
see: mig25 (crazy good on paper → led to development of f15), tupolev tu-22, mig31
The Su-57 was designed for long range combat, but just like the F-22, it’s still extremely agile and maneuverable.
mig25 was never good to begin with, its us that stated that with their overthinking.
also f15 is nothing but a brick just like the mig25, it didnt bring anything new that the us didnt have.
as for the mig31, its a other story. basicly brought the era of spy plane and bomber to a end.
unlike f22 or f35, the su57 is the true meaning of a 5th gen multirole.
I mean the F-35 is also multirole, and a very good one at that but I get what you mean
yes it is there no doubt about that, but the capabilty in stealth mode is so little.
why would even buy 5th gen when you gonna use weapons outside of the bay
I can’t argue with that. Sorry for the posts on the other thread, I was a little bit rude.
no its okay, just forget about it
Algeria…
Algeria signed a contract for it the very same year it entered service in the russian army.
That is the relevant part to discuss. Russia’s economics and geopolitcal power are a different discussion and they don’t tell you about the Su-57’s performance really.
Clearly Russian propaganda smh…/s
His post was AI made, as AI doesn’t aknowledge the algerian deliveries yet and there is a em-dash at the end. He didn’t even put any efforts.
Lol. You do not understand how many people who use AI for “debating” when it comes to military aviation. Some people learn from AI while other just copy paste it. AIs are very biased and there is really no denying in that. Even if you want a friendly conversation with ChatGPT about a Russian vehicle, it will go on and on about how they lie about the performance and blabla.
Because you don’t need stealth for every mission. Once enemy air defenses are down, you can use external stores to bring more ordinance to the fight.
Doesn’t really disprove what he said
How so? An F35 can do what an F16 can do but an F16 cannot do what an F35 can do.