I wasn’t making a semantic point, but I do like yours :)
lol
Backrage hates the F-18 for some reasons. I remember discussing that with him some time ago. He doesn’t want to hear anything about the F-18 being the right choice at the time. He even propagates the baseless rumor that Congress was bribed to take the F-18 over the F-14. The Super Hornet was the right choice.
By the early 2000s, the F-14 Tomcat program was grappling with insurmountable challenges that ultimately sealed its fate. Production had ended back in 1991, with no affordable way to restart the line for new airframes that the Super Tomcat 21 needed.
Grumman’s merger into Northrop further eroded dedicated support and know-how for the F-14.
As if that wasn’t enough, post-Cold War budget cuts made things worse. By 2000, maintenance of aging F-14s was extremely demanding (often 50–60 man-hours per flight hour), spare parts were running critically low and a solution was needed ASAP.
The Super Tomcat program ballooned in price and time. Meanwhile, the Super Hornet offered a cheaper, proven, more immediate path. Production lines were ready thanks to the legacy Hornet, it had lower operating and maintenance costs, and shared logistic + spare parts stockpile with the existing F-18 fleet for easy integration.
The Navy was also moving toward a single platform CAG doctrine to simplify everything(and reduce cost). The Super Hornet was the way forward to achieve that. All in all, the Super Hornet became the only logical replacement, allowing the service to achieve planned CAG capability while controlling costs in a constrained fiscal environment.
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Advocatus Diaboli but the paper was intended to help ground radar stations filter false returns from buildings and other fixed installations by simulating the radar profile of them. The Soviet brass just didn’t consider if you can simulate the RCS of a building, why not an aircraft?
It also took American engineers to invert the information to calculate how to reflect energy away from the radar system.
sure your right but if gaijin actualy adds fithgen properly the f-22 and f-35’s datalink with AWACS will outrange the su-57 (also linked with its own AWACS) due to lower RCS and be able to fire first, knowing gaijin even if it was purely realistic (not gunna happen with bias) without AWACS and like ARB now the su-57 would dominate, it’s made to operate by itself or with little support. Gaijin needs to properly implement jamming, AWACS, datalink, and other mechanics for tt ARB to be fun and fair.
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thats just make it worse for the us part, if awacs and long range missile get added, su57 will see it first ( take time but surly after some time looking ) and will fire long range R37m.
in a 1v1 senario, f22 does have a advantage for sure over the su57. but it can some chace of detecting if the irst in game are properly modeled.
iirc, for a f15 detection with a irst in a su30 or su35, is about 60km in a after burner target in front view.
now it will prop be around 100km is the target is going side way with will after burner.
in resume: u got some Su-57 in ur radars
so from what i had read from the one who started this topic, Su-57 has 12 radars.
aaahhh i’m still fascinated how advanced and technological this massive masterpieces are, so bad normal people aren’t able of learning about them…
BVR or dogfight?
bvr.
in a dog fighter, f22 will have a really hard time.
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Awacs can detect su-57 before it can fire on it, and even if the su-57 is able to get a r-37 off, the jets around the awacs can fire ammrams on it and intercept the big ass r-37 using datalink, and if this was in a naval situation hornets or ships can fire SM missiles
kinda like it yeah.
not judging the f22, but the su57 will have a great energy retantion over it.
57 will have great nose control, if we combine that with the Dircm model that can act a IRST and have a 360* scan, the su57 will lock on the f22 in all time. and ofc the r74m2 can really do some wierd shit and get him in a 180* launch
aim120 canot intercept a r37m at its full speed i am sorry.
same reason as why aim120 are not capable intercepting targets above mach 5.
front aspect ? dont think so, maybe at 170km in stealth loadout, but with r37m equiped yes it can for sure but by that time it will be targeted by it and get shot down.
first war ships are not here
second, the aim174 have a weaker engine than the ship variant, so it will have a hard to get to the speed, but also it will max out a mach 4 due to the f18 slow speed.
i mean, Felon was literally hand-crafted to be able of doing that, Raptor by the other hand… kinda last resource when u have no other option.
f-22 can fire first tho cause of lower RCS, and use crazy long datalink from the awacs which can see su-57 at longer ranges than 57 can fire
awacs canot see the su57 at more than 250km.
also su57 is more stealthy in front aspect then in the side. can reduce it rcs to match a f35 or close to it.
the awacs will detect the su57 at around 210 at best, su57 will detect it long before.
if su57 take r37 as external weapon, awacs can detect it at further range but also the su57 and will shoot the 37m further, even a 250km.
didnt consider that awacs need to be at leas 50km behinde f22.
in a 1v1 senario where both have awacs, the f22 awacs will go down first that for sure. su57 doesnt relly on awacs after and will use ir search and narrow radar search.
the f22 will fire first and su57 will also dodge it with its depployable decoy and towed one.
in ECM, su57 nearly have the double of what the f22 have.
then comes dogfight and i dont need to explain more as it all depend on pilot experience.
where the hell you get the data from?
Su-57 is expected to have 0.1 to 1m RCS
while the f-35 0.001 or less… numerous papers or forums with aviation specialists claim that… so i doubt it is on par with f-35 xD
thats why i said
would like to see that su57 rcs source.
i am sure it based upon t50 rather then the improved su57
This guy made a conclusion… valid or not, your call
whole lotta yap based on nothing, we have no idea how well either jets stealth is or realistically how well they would detect each other.
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