spoiler, su57 will detect everything, bcs sikrits dukimints
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my guy not even close to it…
This is a well written text on one of the forums related to military tech
"The technical result, the achievement of which the invention is directed, is to reduce the magnitude of the aircraft radar visibility to an average value of the order of 0.1 – 1 m 2 .
That’s comparable to a clean Super Hornet and it shouldn’t be a surprise when Su-57 follows many of the same RCS-reduction measures such as using radar blockers to hide the engine face instead of an actual serpentine duct.
It’s not just Su-57 being less stealthy than F-35 (-40 dBsm) – it has a 1,000 times bigger RCS. Since detection range is proportional to the 4th root of RCS, a 1,000 times bigger RCS equates to 5.6 times greater detection range. And this is after giving Su-57 every benefit of doubt, the F-35’s RCS is very likely closer to -50 dB.
The F-35 will be enjoying almost 6 times greater detection range against Su-57. The difference is so huge that Su-57 will be hopelessly outclassed. We see this time and again in Red Flags and Northern Edge with F-35 having 28–1 kill ratio against modern 4th gen. aircraft backed by AWACS and SAMs. The enormous difference in detection range from Stealth is the primary factor for such a lopsided kill ratio.
It doesn’t matter how capable radar or EW suite you have, they simply can’t compensate the enormous difference in detection range from a VLO airframe. You can have amazing performance at airshows but without Stealth you’re not gonna be in a fight against 5th gen. aircraft.
And this is ignoring the infancy of Su-57 program and consistent delay in the production/IOC since last 8 years or the fact Su-57’s avionics suite is not remotely comparable to that of F-35. The F-35 has a bigger and much more capable radar and orders of magnitude more powerful EW suite giving vastly superior Situational Awareness.
Where F-35’s DAS make it the only Fighter to fully operate in the IR spectrum, Su-57 can’t even use its forward-hemisphere IRST without further ruining its RCS. Which in a matter of fact it does reduce the RCS
Yet the Su-57 is portrayed as an equal counterpart to F-22 and F-35 with people talking about its kinematic performance or side-arrays without even understanding their actual purpose, let alone the impact on EMCON. How great are the Directed IRCMs (Laser turrets) while turning a blind eye to the fact Su-57 use a UV based Missile Warning System – making Su-57 significantly vulnerable to BVR missiles. 15 years since first flight and there’s no indication of K-77M or K-74M anywhere close to being operational, forcing Su-57 to fly with R-77 & R-74 externally (as they won’t fit inside)."
I hope I don’t get flamed into oblivion but the recent Su-57 batches look promising, not only with better avionics but also being an ACTUAL production model.
I am personally looking forward as how it will perform IRL, however I doubt we’ll see much from it due to there being very few models and also being very slowly produced.
The only thing I’d say I hate of the Su-57 is its cockpit tbh.
like the rsc of the us are public info.
based on nothing also.
and also funny enough when a actual CIA said that the air forces lie in its numbers for propagnda.
both R-77M and R74M are in service. even the flankers started using it in 2025.
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This was also from an out dated patent…
That is simply false, the delivery pace is matching for the order of 76 to the VKS by 2028, while having enough spare production to produce some Su-57E’s for algeria
Confirmed in active use since december 2025…
How is that related?
me when i cant read
your so right
further proving my point. no where did this say the airforce lied. It said journalists and reporters, aka not the airforce. Either you are proving your inability to comprehend basic literature or you purposely misinterpret things to make pointless arguments.
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https://www.safety.af.mil/Portals/71/documents/Aviation/Aircraft%20Statistics/F-16FY23.pdf
https://www.safety.af.mil/Portals/71/documents/Aviation/Aircraft%20Statistics/F-35FY21.pdf
https://www.safety.af.mil/Portals/71/documents/Aviation/Aircraft%20Statistics/F-15FY23.pdf
The F35 Crash rate isn’t even that high compared to other USAF jets and is pretty low for a new aircraft
technically we don’t know if the R-77M is actually in service tbf, there is such a thing as combat testing
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or perhaps you would like your 90million plane to be able to be killed by a simple button ?
oh hey look, let me take down all europe air force, click the kill switch
boom, no more 5th gen for these european.
Unlike the su57
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god forbid someone sees something incredibly low effort on internet in the ginormous 26, the age of AI slop, and think it’s AI slop therefore trying to see if it is or not
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just saying I wouldn’t trust the AI checkers, it could still be ))))
they are using it more n more in the su35 and wreckage pics were found inside ukraine. i dont think its still a hypothetical K-77M that is no where close to being operational.
At lest it can fly longer than 10 minutes, lol
Reminder that no one is to talk about on going conflicts and politics anymore post regarding this will be removed and timeout given
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