Su-57's radar suite is actually better, F-22 is ageing badly. [Not Ragebait]

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I’m gonna be real, it doesn’t matter if the SU-57 could dogfight God and win, as Russia has only made about 2 dozen of them.

It is a wunderwaffe, because even if we do take what is claimed at face value, there simply are not enough of them to play any meaningful part in a conflict. In comparison, both the USA and China have produced and are capable of producing far more of their own stealth fighters.

Also, credible information on any stealth fighter probably won’t come out until we’re all dying of old age at the earliest.

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Don’t waste your energy on them. If one them thing Stealth tech its like smartphone. The discussion its beyond pointless. They where talking about Shapes and hiding blade. That part of the tech hasn’t change. They could have argue that RAM tech has change. But you will never be able to know the real values of the RAM coating.

And is not like the Su-57 its perfect. The plane has a lot to “Grow”. But Russia its willing to keep upgrading it. But this people are beyond help. For example right now Su-57 still use the ball IRST that its a bigger problem for it RCS than the blade stupidity they were talking. And its not like Russia can’t do Faceted Surfaces because they has show them (Sukhoi)…

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material, production and design tech allows for improvements in those areas. do you seriously think they could have made a production F-22 when they made the A-12/SR-71 with basic RAM

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When the IRST isn’t being used it flips around, where the ram coating is, thought that was a interesting feature.

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quite funny considering your claims go against the fact that they lied about it being an “evacuation exercise”. (yeah totally intended)!
pro russians will often lie and their lies will contradict with the other lies that others provided.

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When did I say it was an evacuation exercise? Oh wait, I didn’t.

In fact I literally said this: (which you ignored because you want to strawman me)

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“This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.” well well well

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Once again i log on only to get my braincells fried on here

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It’s an interesting read, +1 for being brave enough to post it here lol

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learn some reading skills. the russian commentary on the parade said that it was an evacuation exercise
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Topic has been reopened, please post non-offtopic comments, aka things that contribute to it, including images, sources, and so on

And please try to avoid mentioning conflicts

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Are there sources confirming the rear radar N036kh?

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dont get me wrong, i find the comparison interesting. but i dont see the point of this since nothing meaningful is known for sure about either radar.

we can await results on F-35 vs Su-57 testing in India to see how US radar compare to Russian one, but wont see for F-22

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As of the beginning of 2025, there are 30 production Su-57s and 10 Experimental ones in total = 40 units…
Russia has a small Air Force but a large air defense!..The quantitative composition has not changed in the last 30 years, it is +/- 600 units of fighter/fighter bomber class aircraft…

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Since 2025, only the Su-57M with AL-51F1…
The new engine has a Composite inlet guide device (VNA), the composite VNA on the new engine does not negate the presence of a radar blocker. On the old one, this VNA was metal with a radio-absorbing coating… Показана снижающая заметность решётка в воздухозаборнике истребителя Су-57

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The addition of Side antennas is actually interesting, dk how practical it is irl. But isn’t the L-Band antenna only for IFF?

Also anyone can ELI5 how an AESA IFF antenna works? Apparently it was integrated in the Su-35 and 30SM2

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http://su57.mariwoj.pl/su57-index.html

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