Su-39 shouldn't be 11.3

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An plane with R73 being the only missile from what I know at this BR with IRCCM , good air-ground ordnance and also the ir counter thing on the back of the plane, 11.3 for a plane immune to rear aspect ir missiles , with the best missile at this br and an decent flight model being this low of a BR doesn’t makes sense at all , it should never been decreased to 11.3 at all

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Agreed. Dealing with R-73s in 10.0 stuff sucks and the IRCM is infuriating to deal with when you only have rear-aspect IRs

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  1. than r73/aim9m
    for 10.ish region
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A10C…
Not much to add

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They are in this scenario. The rear aspect IRCM makes it so only all aspect IR missiles are effective against it. Rear aspect missiles cannot be used against it.

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the IRCM is a thing, but I wouldnt say its game changing bc if you have a faster plane on your 6 its not ideal.

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It makes it so you are unlikable until the enemy is within 1km. That completely changes your need for situational awareness and is a huge advantage.

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you are forgetting radar exists, so the unkillable thing is not true(aim7e…)

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All-aspect missiles can be used at angles unaffected by the IRCM.

Rear-aspect missiles cannot be used against a target with IRCM

So the Su-39 at 11.3 is very annoying Vs 10.3

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And if you don’t have SARH? or if the target is dropping chaff

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Dont forget the Su-25BM at 11.0
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  1. Multipathing is a thing and is very easy to sit in at slow speeds

  2. Dying to an AIM-7E with a fully digital RWR and a relatively maneuverable jet is laughable

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And 192 CMs

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every full uptier is annoying, try catching the last remaining starfighter in your 8.3 jet.
then there is the prop and jet gap at 6.0-7.0.
you also have a hard time fighting planes which have ahr missiles and you have sarh missiles.
and you have the flareless 9.7-10.3 jet which also have a rough time in a uptier.

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yes, many do that but simply saying it is not possible to kill them with it is not true.

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Allow me to rephrase this:

The Su-39 is near unkillable outside of 1km unless the Su-39 player makes multiple easily avoidable mistakes

That better?

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  1. yes I kinda agree, if the radar missile has a distance its laughable to die to them(best example is toptier there are still players dying to amraams launched at 40km+)
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Thats why I buy a rank 5 prem to skip these BRs

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like what plane is slower in this BR honestly the only thing i think about is the A10 :D

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yes, it is fitting and you can use it for many more…