@oom1992 The Su-39 is added as a premium, it suggests that the Su-25TM will be included in the tech tree.
It’s always the Russian players that ask for the most idiotic and clearly imbalanced additions to the game despite their constant handholding.
If you’re unhappy with the current state of the air to air loadout of the Su-39, you should’ve thought about that before giving gaijin 90$. Its clearly had its loadout limited for balance purposes, and the fact were still wasting time on this argument is frankly dumb.
You ppl just want the shiny new premium you bought to be an OP mixed attacker, which is the LAST thing WT needs right now considering how dominant Russia and more specifically Russian CAS is and has been in mixed battles at top tier.
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@MythicPi I am from Poland and I would like to enjoy everything in War Thunder. I bought the Su-39 because this plane has a nice camouflage in pre-order. I know that it’s just a matter of time before the Su-39 will receive the R77, R27, and R73 missiles. By starting this conversation, I simply want to expedite the process and make it happen in the near future instead of years down the line.
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As far as I know, it is not a Russian vehicle player that makes documents available as an example of aim120 and still asking for it, so I think this is feasible if you compare your comparison
Way of speaking, not saying you are Russian, saying players that main Russia
afaik, the discussions had on the old forums regarding the AIM-120 were largely not around the topic of adding it immediately, but just discussing performance and sharing documentation so that one day when added it could be done properly and efficiently. Afaik its always the Russian players asking for the most obviously unbalanced additions. The only real consistent exception to this is players asking for the hellfire L’s with F&F, which I also disagree with for balance reasons.
I don’t ask for missiles that are very unbalanced, just one better than the r60m because with these missiles it’s even difficult to defend yourself against other vehicles that are superior to it
All missiles being suggested for the Su-39 ARE very unbalanced though.
Designed with the versatility to be used to hunt bandits is a shit reason and doesnt matter , the Puma IFV was design in mind with anti aircraft capability in the mean time its anti aircraft ammo the Ahead doesnt work is shit and doesnt automaticaly programm like it should. Some vehicles just get shafted life with it.
Sometimes russian players are asking for too much. Don’t make the Suchoi’s even stronger.
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Dev can’t add R-73E, R-27R1 and R-27ER1 on Su-39 because limitations of rank 7 BR no higher than 11.3
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@oom1992 Adding R27R1 missiles to the SU-39 would not improve its performance beyond that of the premium MIG-23.
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because the MIG 23 has all that additional air to ground loadouts on top of it, it would raise its capability to strongly in grb matches
I agree that would lead him to have a good defense because he doesn’t have it with the r60m
it has IRCCM as passive defense, in grb that is more then enough
don’t make me laugh with your statement, because what good is having it because you can’t defend yourself using the r60m that alias you still only have 2 and rarely hits the target while the iam-9l, pithon3 and pl08 all hit the target
and not to mention that you will not only use it in tank battles but in airplane battles and using the r60 you basically do nothing and in fact the su-39 can operate this armament because it was made so much for air-to-air combat /air-earth
No it wouldn’t, that’s the point we’re trying to make is that while yes it is a very capable ground attacker, it is utterly terrible at even defending itself in air to air combat even tho IRL it had the tools too do so. Keep in minde it still has very poor flight performance when compaired to other jets at its BR and giving it something like two R-27’s would help level the playing field, not make it OP.
I think you forgot that even if it magically went to 11.7 it can still remain within rank 7, and a example of this is the Ka-50.
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The IRCM doesn’t even work against missiles seen at 9.7 like the AIM-9G let alone 12.0 worthy IR missiles. The IRCM is more of a passive-passive thing which requires the input of both flares and IRCM in combination but alone the thing is utterly useless.