Su-39: R77,R27,R73

While i agree with you it may put it in a somewhat awkward position, BUT
In order for their addition a BR expansion is needed, which we asked gaijin Multiple times to do, so vehicles Like Su39 could receive their full potential in arm and armament, Including other vehicles in Certain nation.

A BR expansion will solve it, the more detailed the BR ( e.g 11.1 or 11.2 or 11.3 ) the more accurate BR placement and enemy it will face.

It Does not struggle at all in CAS, its absoloutely amazing, As a user of it, it completely annihilate a whole team, but the problem is when it comes to its own self aerial defense.

May be its a fighter jet with HMD?

Im not necessarily talking about GRB CAS here, but instead ARB, ASB and NE CAS.

11.3/11.7 respectively, vs 12.3-13.0 is a radically different set of aircraft to face.

And even in GRB, there is a reasonable chance that it would get a BR increase as well. R-77s could see it be more like 12.0 rather than 11.3.

and it only has 4 missiles

the Su-39 would be able to carry 4x r27r + 4x r73 if gaijin were to update the loadout

Your not gaijin, your not development team, Gaijin is not that kind of a team that takes a final answer, and NOT In war thunder, Where a fake paper vehicle like the oerlikon got a APHE where no on can access the vehicle anymore.

or when they buff the Transmission on the E100 A none finished prototype, and they Still buffed it after time when they stated they wont Modify it anymore.

Su39 IS a Premium vehicle, ACCESSIBLE, They did not state before it Got a “final armament” , neither to all vehicles in game, they will still add, modify, and fix all possible and probable necessities in them.

We as a community, We care about balance, but balance without historical accuracy and Realism is not needed anymore, where a vehicle dont get its full potential, or other part of the game is not modelled correctly that will be a gaijin error, issue, we as a community we seek for such fixes.

they did actually

if you dont belive me go and ask smin

He is not responsible about War thunder game development and addition to vehicles and update and fixes additions, Why dont you get it?

Firstly, only the R-27R was discussed here, without increasing the number of R-73s.
Secondly, no, it can’t be a 4+4, at best a 4+2.
Thirdly, I think it makes the most sense to limit it to two R-27Rs to start.

Two R-27Rs instead of two R-73s. This literally doesn’t change its BR (see hawk200).

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even then it still carries more missiles than the 21Bison

my total agreement, exactly, even if it was two R27Rs and two R73 its ok, and acceptable, it will provide it at least with some aerial protection.

It can carry only 2 R27Rs and 2 R73s…

2 R-27R on R-73 pylon means 2 R-27 + 2 R-60.

Is not more than bison

its 4 r27r maybe read again

Read again please

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Bison can carry this.

The same thing as Su39 if the R27R added to it.

R-27Rs are significantly more powerful than Skyflash DFs. There is no comparison here.

Even with a loadout of 2x R-60M + 2x R-27R, I would still see an 11.7 BR.

2x R-73 + 2x R-27R definetly seals the deal there. With compression though… Im semi inclined to compare that Su-39 with that 2+2 fit to something like the Viggen D or Mirage F1 at 12.0, and whilst it gets messy due to being subsonic. I could see a 12.0 BR there as well.

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yes and i read the brochure that say 4 r27r

Absolutely acceptable!

Agree with you even more>

I would still be concerned that R-27R, with what actually is a half decent radar, could be really OP in a downtier though. R-27Rs are very potent SARHs