Will be when they fix the lock ranges, pretty hard limited to about 3km at the moment
IDK i only have them on the 2 german planes but ive launched them from 6-9km and gotten kills with them top down. R73 uses fov gating so you dont really want to launch them farther than you would an r60 in most cases since they will get 1 flared otherwise, except side aspect.
Its a lot easier to sneak in a 9m without someone noticing, and in these short furball matches that matters a lot, 1v1 sure it wont work but ARB right now is taking advantage of the chaos to kill people who dont expect it.
I’ve been unable to launch, despite being within the LSZ according to my radar
I feel like adding a separate Su-39 in the tree would probably be the best way to go with this. (Your all welcome for my very original opinion :])
It is the “solution” taken for the Viggen D and Tornado F3 and so long as it was foldered somehow, would be the most sensible solution at this time. Its a shame dynamic BRs are unlikely to be a thing
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Or a proper Su-25T. IIRC there is a suggestion on RU forum for it, quite detailed one (it even got proposed loadout pictures)
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:O hopefully that gets passed to devs. I’ve always loved the frogfoots
The SU-25TM never had the same optimised FCS the SU-39 had to fire the RVV-AE and R-27R1 (the SUO-39P I believe), they’ll maybe give it said weapons on a theorised basis.
I go to extensive detail about this somewhere in this discussion with sources
Funny enough the SU-39 and possibly the SU-25T should also recieve a HMS iirc, there is a plethora of things these vehicles are missing.
this aged well
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If the su39 got hmd and all the toys it is supposed to have at 12.7 it would be incredibly fun. I sometimes fly it with radar vikirs and kh29 just for fun to try and get kill with them in ARB and ASB, sim is the main reason I bought it radar seemed like it would be fun there, though i mostly play dcs anymore for that.
IMO su-39 with 4 r-77s, 2 -73s and lots of vikhrs would be an amazing ground strike aircraft at 13.0 for air. IMO, 12.7 is too low for 4 r-77s.
Idk the ice at 13.0 with 4 aim 120 and 9ms kinda blows it out of the water, isnt there like a harrier at 12.7 with aim120?
The ICE and F3 are largely forced down due to compression but probably should be 13.3. F3 would be easy to fix and get back up, Fix BOL and add at least 1x Phimat pod and it would be a strong 13.3. With room to go up higher with Aim-120C5s and maybe even ASRAAM. F4F ICE is tricky, as I dont think it has the same kind of buff options, but just decompressing and moving all 14.0s to 14.3 and some 13.7s to 14.0 would do the trick
It would be best to compare the Su-39 with aircraft like the FA2, AV-8B+, Kfir C10 and J-8F
Rn, the only fox 3 carriers that are below 13.0 are phoenix slingers. None of the “modern” fox 3s are below 13.0. Imo, having any kind of modern fox 3 should automatically grant you 13.0. also, british harrier with fox 3s which is the one i think youre talking about is 13.0, altho ngl it’s jsut a horrendous plane that probably shouldnt have been added at all. it is just unplayable.
Ya i guess there isnt any arh slingers at 12.7 is there? Unless you count f14. The radar on su39 bleeds a lot of performance doesnt it? Its a giant pod on the bottom.
FA2 would be fine if BOL worked and they added the twin rails + BOL which is technically possible, just doesnt appear to have ever been done due to how soon after BOL intergration the airframe was retired.
2x R-77 would be fine at 12.7, but would be stupid below that. 4x R-77 would be really pushing it at 12.7, but might be fine due to both low sub-sonic launch and the inherrent weaknesses of R-77, in addition to the radar limitations from being a pod
But does still raise the question of whether an Su-39 is anything other than canon fodder above 11.7/12.0 and would it be better to just leave it alone, as much as possible, and perhaps just give it some R-27R/Ts?
Yeah but even then, I am pretty sure you give up either amraams or twin 9ms for BOL pods, which ruins the plane entirely. You also have to give up your gun for missiles. Also terrible RWR too. Probably the only modern fox 3 slinger that can be 12.7. Also, it doesnt even get the harrier 2 flight model, it gets the original FM of the frs 1 im pretty sure.