“The plant produced the pre-production T8TM-3 aircraft, which made its first flight on August 15, 1995. From the same year, the vehicle received a new official name Su-39 ” - ISBN 5901668014
The initial SU-39 was designated as T8TM-3 which was produced at the Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant, it was later renamed the SU-39 following test flights (after August 15th but before December 31st) in 1995.
After a bit of digging and found that there was a entire sub-system named after it called the Cy-39 STRIKE SHIELD (Cy-39 being SU-39 in Russian) showing us a possible upgrades performed on the T8TM-4 from the original SU-25TMs.
It even mentions the R-27R or R-27R1 as it’s a export vehicle, may hint to the SU-39 never being equipped with the R-27ER1s (less of a excuse to add them now lol).
Also would like to mention that the SU-39 still hasn’t received the KAB-500Ls, would be nice to get it alongside new A2A weapons like the R-27R1/T1s and possibly the RVV-AEs.
This is the official weapons loadout for the SU-39 in which it does mention it was capable of carrying the Kh-25MT, it could’ve been either a proposed or functional thing but it’s mentioned on this secondary source which has been acknowledged.
Only very small batch of kh-25MTP was produced
This does mention the Kh-25MTP however which would be a straight upgrade to the Kh-25MT and I’d take that anytime of the week.
There is only one issue with this however, it’s missing the R-27R1/ER1. I have other sources which mention the R-27R1 anyways (couldn’t find anything for the ER1, probably didn’t carry them).
It would be able to carry 2x R-73Es, 2x RVV-AE and 2x R-27R1/T1s to my knowledge which would either be pushing 12.7 or 13.0 - if a HMS was added to the vehicle which it should have I’d place it at 13.0.
You can see the R-27R1s being carried on the third and ninth pylons freeing space for the R-73Es and RVV-AEs, just a public image however and we’d need a source to bug report this.
You are wrong, Su-39 can carry up to 4 R-77, 4 R-27R/ER and 4 R-73
You clearly didn’t read my message properly, I was referring to the maximum amount of missiles the SU-39 could carry at once that being 6x. Those 6x can be configured in many ways but are generally restricted to R-73Es on the outer pylons, the RVV-AE on the middle-ish A2A pylons and the R-27R1/T1s on the inner A2A pylons.
I have already said that I am responsible for absolutely all historical reports on Su-39/Su-25T
Doesn’t mean much, I got a plethora of sources available but the reason for me not bug reporting frequently is my laziness - I dumped a bunch of images above if you want to have a look as an example.
It’s good to know however that you have a interest or at least show a slight form of interest into the SU-39, the SU-25 series of aircraft (including the SU-39 & SU-28) are one of my most favourite if not most favourite aircraft in general.
Alongside the cheeky Harriers, MiG-21s and JF-17/Sino Flankers
And the spear-25 will be improved in this update. The range of tank detection will increase significantly
I saw that couple days ago or so and that’s pretty fortunate, the Kopyo-25 and Kopyo-21 were copies of one another in-game which shouldn’t be the case and both should be adjusted this upcoming update.
By the way, can you estimate the engine and wing tank size changes of the Su-25 and 39
Sounds like a bit of effort would need to go into that, I’ll just bug report missing ordinances if that helps instead (if I got the time of course) xd.
I’m also considering buying materials in real life like secondary sources for the SU-39 and SU-25 in general, hopefully that comes soon.
IT WILL? Hope Gaijin makes this thing usable. As it is now having more than two targets being detected makes the radar go crazy, rendering it useless. (TWS.mp4 - Google Drive – evidence of what i’m saying)
Though it seems like they still won’t add the kinzhal/khod container, which is a shame as they would be the proper A2G targeting pod.
And that bug report about the missing R-27ER and R-77 was accepted
