It already suffers greatly in ARB same with 25t and the one thats even higher BR. Giving it r77 would only help it, but it would have to go to 12.7 at least anything lower and its clubbing, maybe if it was in the US tech tree it could be 12.3 (a-10c at 11.3 when the sm3 was 12.3 LMAO). It would still be more viable at 12.7 with r77 than it is now.
The bigger issue is it would no longer be 11.3 or 11.7 in GRB, which make it effetively a dead plane as you immedietly have better options for CAS for lineups at 12.0+, it barely competes at 11.7 already vs the su24 for grb lineups. If gaijin was really generous and put it at 12.0 in GRB it would have a place as CAP I guess.
I suspect thats why it hasnt gotten these missiles. No one buys this for ARB, it is meant to be a CAS plane for paypiggies that bought the t80 at 11.7. Giving it r77 will ruin that and cause a lot of players who bought it frustration. Those players are not going to be happy having to uptier to 12.0 at minimum when they dont have 12.0 lineups.
More r73 isnt going to help, r73 strength is in dogfights with HMD, su39 doesnt get HMD, and you would also rely on players being dumb and trying to dogfight a subsonic when they can just bully it with impunity BnZ style.
IDK i only have them on the 2 german planes but ive launched them from 6-9km and gotten kills with them top down. R73 uses fov gating so you dont really want to launch them farther than you would an r60 in most cases since they will get 1 flared otherwise, except side aspect.
Its a lot easier to sneak in a 9m without someone noticing, and in these short furball matches that matters a lot, 1v1 sure it wont work but ARB right now is taking advantage of the chaos to kill people who dont expect it.
It is the “solution” taken for the Viggen D and Tornado F3 and so long as it was foldered somehow, would be the most sensible solution at this time. Its a shame dynamic BRs are unlikely to be a thing
The SU-25TM never had the same optimised FCS the SU-39 had to fire the RVV-AE and R-27R1 (the SUO-39P I believe), they’ll maybe give it said weapons on a theorised basis.
I go to extensive detail about this somewhere in this discussion with sources
If the su39 got hmd and all the toys it is supposed to have at 12.7 it would be incredibly fun. I sometimes fly it with radar vikirs and kh29 just for fun to try and get kill with them in ARB and ASB, sim is the main reason I bought it radar seemed like it would be fun there, though i mostly play dcs anymore for that.
The ICE and F3 are largely forced down due to compression but probably should be 13.3. F3 would be easy to fix and get back up, Fix BOL and add at least 1x Phimat pod and it would be a strong 13.3. With room to go up higher with Aim-120C5s and maybe even ASRAAM. F4F ICE is tricky, as I dont think it has the same kind of buff options, but just decompressing and moving all 14.0s to 14.3 and some 13.7s to 14.0 would do the trick
It would be best to compare the Su-39 with aircraft like the FA2, AV-8B+, Kfir C10 and J-8F