IT WILL? Hope Gaijin makes this thing usable. As it is now having more than two targets being detected makes the radar go crazy, rendering it useless. (TWS.mp4 - Google Drive – evidence of what i’m saying)
Though it seems like they still won’t add the kinzhal/khod container, which is a shame as they would be the proper A2G targeting pod.
And that bug report about the missing R-27ER and R-77 was accepted
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Can anyone tell me if this would be useful for reporting on 4xr73? it says that the outermost pylons are for the r60m or r73 and below it talks about the other 8 pylons. (source: “Sukhoi Su-25 Frogfoot” Yefim Gordon pg 82)
it would be nice if they do add this tho
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ZVQw6XfaEFiE
Six months ago it was accepted as a bug. When will they give the Su-39 (Su-25TM) it’s missiles? Also, I am reading that the plane is also supposed to have a head mounted display. Is this correct?
I am honestly dissapointed that this genuinely notable upgrade the venerable Frogfoot is locked behind the paywall. I know we have the Su-25T in-game, but this thing is supposed to have so much more, yet it doesn’t. I hope they fix the plane and add a version to the tech-tree that’s the Su-25TM and keep the Su-39 on sale as the export version (even if they are ultimately identical aircraft!)
Gaijin made the mistake of presuming the Su-39 is the same as the Su-25T, but this is evidently not the case. Unfortunate, honestly.
It already suffers greatly in ARB same with 25t and the one thats even higher BR. Giving it r77 would only help it, but it would have to go to 12.7 at least anything lower and its clubbing, maybe if it was in the US tech tree it could be 12.3 (a-10c at 11.3 when the sm3 was 12.3 LMAO). It would still be more viable at 12.7 with r77 than it is now.
The bigger issue is it would no longer be 11.3 or 11.7 in GRB, which make it effetively a dead plane as you immedietly have better options for CAS for lineups at 12.0+, it barely competes at 11.7 already vs the su24 for grb lineups. If gaijin was really generous and put it at 12.0 in GRB it would have a place as CAP I guess.
I suspect thats why it hasnt gotten these missiles. No one buys this for ARB, it is meant to be a CAS plane for paypiggies that bought the t80 at 11.7. Giving it r77 will ruin that and cause a lot of players who bought it frustration. Those players are not going to be happy having to uptier to 12.0 at minimum when they dont have 12.0 lineups.
Missile loadouts are always a balancing decision. Which is why for example the Jaguar Gr1A doesn’t have 9Ls and the Tornado Gr1 doesn’t have Aim-9Ms.
The only upgrade the Su39 could get without just increasing it’s BR to above 12.0 would be 2x R-27R/Ts.
If it can have 4x R73s then that would fine too, but would still go up to 11.7.
More r73 isnt going to help, r73 strength is in dogfights with HMD, su39 doesnt get HMD, and you would also rely on players being dumb and trying to dogfight a subsonic when they can just bully it with impunity BnZ style.
Yeah, but apparently the A10C is crazy OP at 11.7 despite it being identical, so god knows
Range is a big factor on the 9ms.
Will be when they fix the lock ranges, pretty hard limited to about 3km at the moment
IDK i only have them on the 2 german planes but ive launched them from 6-9km and gotten kills with them top down. R73 uses fov gating so you dont really want to launch them farther than you would an r60 in most cases since they will get 1 flared otherwise, except side aspect.
Its a lot easier to sneak in a 9m without someone noticing, and in these short furball matches that matters a lot, 1v1 sure it wont work but ARB right now is taking advantage of the chaos to kill people who dont expect it.
I’ve been unable to launch, despite being within the LSZ according to my radar
I feel like adding a separate Su-39 in the tree would probably be the best way to go with this. (Your all welcome for my very original opinion :])
It is the “solution” taken for the Viggen D and Tornado F3 and so long as it was foldered somehow, would be the most sensible solution at this time. Its a shame dynamic BRs are unlikely to be a thing
Or a proper Su-25T. IIRC there is a suggestion on RU forum for it, quite detailed one (it even got proposed loadout pictures)
:O hopefully that gets passed to devs. I’ve always loved the frogfoots
The SU-25TM never had the same optimised FCS the SU-39 had to fire the RVV-AE and R-27R1 (the SUO-39P I believe), they’ll maybe give it said weapons on a theorised basis.
I go to extensive detail about this somewhere in this discussion with sources
Funny enough the SU-39 and possibly the SU-25T should also recieve a HMS iirc, there is a plethora of things these vehicles are missing.