Su-39, "Khod/Kinzhal" Thermal Imaging/Radar Container

[Ralin]

Well. What do you think of the developer’s neatness?

R-73 on su-25bm (though bad not tuned yet) and new f-16 on 12.3 with bombs, missiles of all kinds, thermal imaging, etc.

And it will play in the same battle with the Su-39

[Morvran]

I hate it. Britain still has nothing competitive

[Ralin]

Get your historically accurate T-90. Soon the developer will add tanks of other countries simply because their leaders once shook hands

[Willithepower]

There is only 2 real bias in this game, the soviet one for ground (justified) and the US one for air (justified but USA main do not think so). 5th 4th gen aircraft for USA, others nations got 2 or only 1 lol.

[Morvran]

Im never going to research it on principal

[Ralin]

I respect you for that.

[Ralin]

I wouldn’t say the USSR part is right. USSR has only 1 tank 11.7, all other major and even many minor nations have at least 2.

Yes, another top US airplane is funny when many have 0

[Morvran]

I think the chally 2E is actually a downgrade to the black knight. At least looking at its stat card, mod page. Only reason its 11 7 is the better optics. But you are right on paper

[dotSHINI]

Yes and Russia very likely is getting Mig 29SMT that was seen with french targeting pods so stop complaining, you are getting your new fancy cas, so we can leave the su 39 like it is, besides that very likely the F16C might be the introduction to 12.3

[Ralin]

@x_Shini

Yes and Russia very likely is getting Mig 29SMT

Okay, 1 airplane, so far the US has 5. Maybe we’ll get 5 different ones too.

@x_Shini

so we can leave the su 39 like it is

How does the appearance of the Plane on 12.3 affect the Su-39 on 11.3, which doesn’t get any better from it?

@x_Shini

F16C might be the introduction to 12.3

It’s a shame that 12.3 and 11.3 play together, and considering the USSR has no other strike aircraft besides the Su-39 you’ll be taking that to 11.7 at the very least.

I.e. f-16C with medium range missiles, thermal imager, better flight parameters and better short range missiles (aim-9l) are against you

So far you have two R-60m.

Adding more multirole aircraft only makes su-39 worse

[dotSHINI]

@Ralin

Okay, 1 airplane, so far the US has 5. Maybe we’ll get 5 different ones too.

OH NO anyway, russia doesnt need to be the best everywhere, stop complaining

@Ralin

How does the appearance of the Plane on 12.3 affect the Su-39 on 11.3, which doesn’t get any better from it?

u were always complainign that the SU 39 cant be used because it is sooo slow and is missing thermal etc etc, well the MIG 29 SMT has all that for top tier, and the SU 39 does a well enough job for what it is supposed to do

@Ralin

It’s a shame that 12.3 and 11.3 play together, and considering the USSR has no other strike aircraft besides the Su-39 you’ll be taking that to 11.7 at the very least.

and i should care why?, you have the alternative to take the Mig 29SMT, and many will just do that, you have the choice

@Ralin

So far you have two R-60m.

in war thunder it is a striker not a multirolefighter, it does the striker role well

@Ralin

Adding more multirole aircraft only makes su-39 worse

well yeah it is a striker airframe what did you expect, every real multirole fighter is gonna beat it, just be happy you have a possible alternative now

[Ralin]

@x_Shini

in war thunder it is a striker not a multirolefighter, it does the striker role well

13.0 and go Subsonic aircraft without missiles shouldn’t be up against 4+ fighters

[Ralin]

@x_Shini

if they can they directly switch to 11.7 and at that point they can just take the 12.3 aircraft with them as well it doesnt matter then anymore

It literally has. 12.3 means you’re playing with 11.3+
11.7 means you’re playing with 10.7+.

@x_Shini

the game isnt fair, aircraft without flares shouldnt meet all aspect slingers either but they do, some aircraft just have to suck it up and play with the card they are dealed with, strikers in general lose out in that tier but it is what it is , you are getting a better cas finaly and you still arent happy, you say 11.3 players still suck it

I laughed from the picture, but the current P-73 settings are worse than aim-9l in terms of reacting to heat traps. These airplanes without heat traps suffer from any IR missile.

TY-90 is available on 10.0, so literally the P-73s have no effect or problem whatsoever

[dotSHINI]

@Ralin

It literally has. 12.3 means you’re playing with 11.3+
11.7 means you’re playing with 10.7+.

same rule for air happens at ground as well, in air 11.0 gets sucked up to top tier 12.0, the same thing happens with ground as well, everything 11.0 or future 11.3 gets sucked up into 12.0/12.3, so your air excuse happens the same at ground

@Ralin

I laughed from the picture, but the current P-73 settings are worse than aim-9l in terms of reacting to heat traps. These airplanes without heat traps suffer from any IR missile.

well yeah the missle is still bugged what do you expect, but it already does 180° shoulder shoots

[Willithepower]

Well yes, but to be fair the t-80 BVM is easily the best top tier tank right now thanks to it’s survivability.

[Chocolate_Pasta]

SU39’s loadout seems totally wrong… at least it could carry 4R73 or 4KH29T

[Ralin]

or 6 Kr500

[Ralin]

I wanted to raise this topic again. A new patch and new planes have been released:
AV-8B Plus with an excellent thermal imager and 8 bombs on 11.7, Super Etendard with a container without a thermal imager and 4 bombs on 10.0. In addition, bad weather has appeared, which actually kills assault aircraft without a thermal imager in a third of the battles (it feels like dense clouds and fog meet with such periodicity).
Hence the question, why would at least one Soviet aircraft not get a thermal imager, especially when it existed and can be added without problems.

[Kingtiez-live]

Who knows, now is definitely a prime time to add Khod to the game.

[Willithepower]

Considering the Mig-29SMT didn’t got one, i agree it is time to finally get this pod added.