Su-39 Armament

Based strictly on published specifications in Jane’s All the World’s Aircraft 2003–2004 [1], the U.S. Army TRADOC Worldwide Equipment Guide: Air and Air Defense Systems [2], Sukhoi Su-39 : Sukhoi [3], which its contents are supported by “Aerofax: Sukhoi Su-25 Frogfoot: The Soviet Union’s Tank-Buster” [3’], and “OKB Sukhoi: A History of the Design Bureau and its Aircraft” [3"] and an official report made by Rosoboronexport’s “Aerospace Systems Export Catalogue” [4], the current in-game representation of the Su-39 (Su-25TM) in War Thunder does not fully reflect the aircraft’s documented weapons integration capability. While the game correctly models Kh-25/Kh-29 variants, 9K127 Vikhr (However, not the Vikhr-M) missiles, KAB-500Kr, standard unguided bombs and rockets, and short-range air-to-air missiles (R-73 and R-60M) — all consistent with published references [1][2][3][3’][3"][4] — authoritative sources further describe the Su-39 as compatible with radar-guided medium-range air-to-air missiles, R-27R1/ER1 and R-77, enabled by the Kopyo-25 radar suite [1][2][3][4], 4 external pods of SPPU-678 pod with GSh-30-1 cannon[2][3], as well as anti-ship (Kh-31A) and anti-radiation (Kh-58E) missiles forming part of its expanded multi-role strike and SEAD capability [1][2][3][4]. Moreover, it retained and improved the Shkval of Su-25T, to the Shkval-M: an Optical-TV sight system with night/all-weather capabilities, while also installing the Khod thermal imager, and a 23X image magnification aiming system (to 25 km)[2][4]. The omission of these documented radar-guided AAM, anti-ship, and SEAD munitions results in a configuration that aligns more closely with the Su-25T rather than the fully realized Su-39 standard described in professional aviation literature.

The Su-39 differs from the Su-25T in three major aspects:
Integration of Kopyo-25 radar
Expanded air-to-air capability (R27R1/ER1 and R77)
SEAD mission role via anti-radiation missile integration (Kh-31A and Kh-58E)

The in-game Su-39 currently includes:
Kopyo-25 radar pod
Vikhr missiles
Kh-25/Kh-29
R-73 / R-60M
However, omission of radar-guided AAM and anti-radiation systems does not align with the documented expansion of capability described in references [1]–[4].
This results in a configuration functionally equivalent to the Su-25T baseline rather than the radar-equipped Su-39 modernization.

Given War Thunder’s stated emphasis on historical vehicle modeling based on documented technical sources, a review of the Su-39’s radar-integrated armament suite appears warranted.

References

[1] Jane’s All the World’s Aircraft 2003–2004, Jane’s Information Group. ISBN 0-7106-2537-5 (link: SUKHOI Su-39)
[2] U.S. Army TRADOC. Worldwide Equipment Guide: Air and Air Defense Systems. ISBN 978-1727024784 (link: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/WorldwideEquipmentGuide_2015_Air_and_Air_Defense_Systems.pdf, especially, but not exclusively, from pp.31-32)
[3] Sukhoi Su-39 : Sukhoi
[3’] Aerofax: Sukhoi Su-25 Frogfoot: The Soviet Union’s Tank-Buster ISBN 978-1857802542
[3"] Antonov, Vladimir; Gordon, Yefim et al. OKB Sukhoi: A History of the Design Bureau and its Aircraft. Midland Publishing, Hinckley 1996. ISBN 1-85780-012-5.
[4] Rosoboronexport “Aerospace Systems Export Catalogue” (2005), Publisher: Rosoboronexport State Corporation, pp.14/95

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Additional clarification:

In NATO, R77, Kh-31, Kh-58 are called AA-12, AS-17, and AS-11, respectively.

As much as I wanted, is up to developers to make certain weapons available to aircraft. You can have X airplane in-game able to use all its weapons and you can also make Y airplane with specific selection of weapons available based on balance. It’s a unfortunate.

I just put this on the Bug report for Gaijin, but they said the following "If you believe that some of characteristics are wrong, you have to provide sources. We can’t accept report without them. All sources must be presented as source title, cover, and page with data.

Encyclopedias and 3rd party websites are not reliable sources.

The only reliable source (Rosoboronexport) do not prove that the armament is incorrect."

I have provided other credible sources like the " Worldwide Equipment Guide" (2015), which is an official guide from the department of defense

What person says that this isn’t credited by a primary source?
What person can possibly refute that this isn’t supported credibly?

Issue is, do you want it to be at 13.0

Isn’t a primary source for Russian equipment.

Ya, noticed that. Revised my argument accordingly.

So I can answer some these fairly easily.

Expanded air-to-air capability (R27R1/ER1 and R77)

Not present for balance considerations. Adding these missiles would increase the BR to a position the developers do not wish to place SU-39 at.

SEAD mission role via anti-radiation missile integration (Kh-31A and Kh-58E)

We don’t have any ARM’s in game right now.

Integration of Kopyo-25 radar

Kopyo-25 is already available in game right now.
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Yeah I’m more interested in the thermal pod that the su-39/25tm was supposed to get.
Unfortunately can’t find more other than a prototype/mockup on a test plane

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