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They arent. The 27EA was a prototype that was tested a bit and then scrapped in favor of the R-77. The Su-33 never received an upgraded radar or fire control system that would allow compatibility with Fox 3 missiles. It still uses the R-27R and ER.
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Iam sorry you don’t enhance realism by giving planes missiles it never carried/fired, at that point why don’t we just give the su-17 the r73 and r77.
As it stands the su33 we have in game wouldn’t even be capable of firing the r77 because of its radar/ fire control system.
The only version of the su33 that would be able to fire those missiles is a proposed modernized variant of the su33 that got never produced.
If gaijin would change the current su33 to that proposed varaiant it would in fact reduce realism.
And you don’t balance planes by giving it better missiles you balance them by BR decompression.
Iam sorry but no matter what missile gaijin would give the su33 you would still get killed by other players that are simply better than you, just bc they didn’t buy their way into top tier.
To survive in top tier you don’t only need good missiles, you also need situational awareness and understanding of the game mechanics and you won’t get that by having better missiles.
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it wasnt.
Su-33M is Su-33 with RWR(SPO-150), new MFD, which werent present earlier.
I know there was a proposed variant, that would have been able to mount the r77 and thought it was the 33m.
Would be nice if you could give me the correct name for that variant so I can correct my post.
nope, to be able to use R77 the radar on the Su27 had to be modified to allow it, thats why the base N001 and K cant use R77s
Basically the su33 one heavier variant of the su27 just the russian added canarda and more powerfull engine with 2 stage afterburn mode (not modelled in wt) better radar with ultra low altitude mode (not modelled in wt) and have digit rwr (modelled)
So atm the su33 just one flying brick what overtiered. Remove the digit rwr from su33 and move to 12.7 or implement the unique radar mode and 2 stage afterburner
original Su-33 didnt had RWR at all
no SPO-15 and SPO-150 antennas
apperently the proposed version never got a designation
im not sure is that even true, havent seen such information in Russian sources
Seems like it was a proposed upgrade package to the russian goverment?
As the russian navy is more or less non existand, it just didnt happen.
But hey thats just a theory.
A plane theory.
Iam gonna look and try finding more about it.
Yep, some people are just hard headed…
Other than that, no, it’s perfectly fine as is, it’s comparable to the Gripen A, which has 6x AIM-9M’s at 13.0 MAX, while Su-33 is less maneuverable, it has 6x thrust vectoring R-73’s, as well as 6x R-27ER’s at the same BR (R-27ER is undoubtedly the best SARH in game) all in spite of the factor to be maneuverability. Not to mention it gets the ‘monocle’ HMS. Gripen A didn’t even operate the HMD it has in game, and could have it removed to return to 12.7.
It is perfect where it is, possibly could even be increased if they buff its FM.
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Can you please translate in English because you post in Russian.
thats not even important, since main - picture.
like, R-73, R-27R/ER, R-27T/ET
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The Aim120 has similar time to target, with the added advantage the guiding aircraft can just dip once the Aim120 goes pitbull.
You’re not winning with an ER or any Fox 1 against any Fox 3 player worth their salt.
It’s noticable slower and it’s a much more modern missile at a higher br ofc it’s going to be better. But the r27er has still definitely good and can hit shots the aim120 is simply too slow for. I don’t understand why you seem to think fox3s are an easy I win, if you can beat a sarh it’s not much harder to beat a arh missile just notch/use terrain or notch/chaff at high altitude like anything else.
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The point is that the Fox 1 will never connect in any situation against any player who knows what they are doing. With a Fox 3 it’s extremely easy to keep the pressure and always force the Fox 1 on the defensive, especially so with HMD.
Also you underestimate the Aim120 / overestimate the ER. At long range the time to target is barely 1 second of difference at most. Combined with vastly superior radar on the NATO side, the ER carrier has to take a lot more risk in a joust.
Neither will an ARH…?
There’s this fancy thing called TERRAIN that the missile won’t be able to go through.
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