Ah maybe I wrongly compared it to the premium one.
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My God, how is this not considered OP? You get less G-force in turns, but more range, while the R77-1 doesn’t even reach 6km without completely exhausting its energy.
Right but after a year, you would think that if “there’s no reason to play the F-15 and F-18 over the Eurofighter” then the player base would have adjusted already, but that’s not the case. US players are still loyal to their planes due to potentially their love for it.
Maybe but i think that people on this forum also like to overestimate the average war thunder players willingness to grind multiple tech trees to top tier. Im pretty sure that theres just a decent amount of poor blokes playing the F15/F18, because thats the best they have
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The F-15GE is not bad; the problem lies with the AIM-120
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Sure, it’s very powerful, but the missile is just a slow, unpowered flying brick; it wouldn’t even hit a MiG-15, but according to some, it could hit a jet traveling at over 1500 km/h while making turns.
Just like the F-18E.
An F-18E with AIM-9Xs would be 0.3 - 0.7 above the other top aircraft.
to be fair the trajectory of these missiles aren’t optimized for these kind of shots, as it would be more beneficial to turn hard while the booster is active, and then relax its turning until its closer to the target, rather than the simple time to gain pull tables that we have for missiles that makes missiles pull softly until its closer to the target
Therefore, it will only be useful in certain situations and in close-quarters combat with the AIM-120, having a bit more range. The only advantage is that everyone, without exception, will be able to guide missiles while defending. It will still be much smarter to turn, fire, and return to the notch position than to launch the missile with a low chance of hitting. And about the R27ER, well, dying to it while the RWR screams since its launch is sad.
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Why “poor blokes”, what is the sympathy there for?
The R-77-1 is not at a monster level.
i think they can actually add aim120d’'s to america (or atleast american jets in every tt) ? cus irrc only america uses AIM120D atm.
Well maybe its just me but id prefer a somewhat balanced game and US top tier air really got shafted this year
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its ok because the F-15E was good for 20 days
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Problem is anyone who wasn’t a diehard US fan knew they would be shafted when it comes to late 4th gen even years ago because the US never actually built a proper Gen 4.5 and just skipped to 5th gen, and those who didn’t know either were too ignorant to look up other country’s planes and learn something cool, or had an arrogant belief of USA superior, so there isn’t really any sympathy to be had.
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I think the problem is not the SM2 but all the planes now with the ability to hold datalink on missiles after launching while being in the notch the crazy off boresight shots will be a non issue because the missiles will bleed most of their energy in the turn it’s just the ability to hold datalink on targets while notching their missile. Going to be a lot tougher for planes that lack this ability. They should not be nerfed other nations and or planes will just need something to offset this missing ability. Don’t need to just swap what plane stomps every patch like the Rafale has been. Just my 2 cents
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AIM-120D was exported in the name under AIM-120C-8.
Sure everyone knew that the US doesnt really have a gen 4.5 that could go toe to toe with something like the Eurocanards but they absolutely have fast missile slingers with good radars. Problem is just that the missiles are mid and they didnt get enough. Pretty sure no one predicted that the 120 C5 would be a nothingburger
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I think the only good 4th generation fighter for the US is the F-15EX.
It’s great that people are realizing America isn’t the best in every category, and this is from someone who was born and raised as an American, with no affiliation to France. Cope.