Huh, couldve sworn ive seen people say it about the 27sm…
Anyways uhh, i dunno lemme mess around in user missions, i dunno if this is actually possible or not in game atm.
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well it uses n001vep radar. and that radar isn’t able to fire more than 2 arh at once lol, so i doubt it can with 27ers
They use the excuse that “oh simultaneously attack surely means it can with ers”
n001VEP page (radar used on su-30mk2 and su-27sm)
It’s most likely with arh missiles only
Remove (don’t have toptier) from Don’t Care.
Can’t wait for the ppl complaining abt the radar to fight a Jas-39E with the same thing
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They don’t complain because it’s not Russian.
Gripen do same thing and nobody is complaining, MatAWG video
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Gripen is currently locked to AMRAAMs with poor off boresight performance, if it gets MICAs then it will be extremely powerful, but currently the Su-30SM2 is doing it better because of superior turn performance missiles
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Yes, it’s useless above 6km, as MatAWG tested in his video. The missile will lose all its energy on that turn; all it takes is for the enemy player to have an IQ higher than the ambient temperature and turn.
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Mattawg is a cretin I don’t trust anything he says, not to mention it can also be done with ERs
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R-77-1 has the same notch parameters as Aim-120. Most viable missile kills are launched at basically point blank range already and multiple planes being able to notch and track missiles means that in all likelihood that engagements will become even closer range.
There will be a middle range where the Su-30 can defend itself better and then lose at closer ranges. If the HMD change goes through then in visual range fight, it will have to turn in to launch. Most players are not going to constantly fidget with radar.
Eurofighter will also have radar with beyond 90 gimbal limit but is limited in HOBS capability so it also has to turn in and turn out. It can also do it faster and with less energy bleed. On top of that, from what I am seeing, it has the ability to perpetually scan it’s entire field of view…whereas Su-30 is a steerable 60 degree cone.
My opinion is to wait and see what happens. The same people that were coping about Su-30 destroying the game and outclassing everything because of large missile load are the same people coping about this one too.
The only planes really getting the short end of the stick are everyone with non-steerable AESA radar and those without turbo-charged flight models like Rafale / Eurofighter.
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Eurofighter can do as well, lauch missile, turn 90 degrees and guide the missile and defend itself, Su30SM2 It should stay as it is, there’s nothing to complain about, for me this is already closed.
I don’t think the Su-30SM2 needs nerfs, just that some other vehicles need adjustments to be competitive at the same BRs (namely the gripen E and whatever dogshit the U.S. has going on)
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These ideas are not new. People have advocated for F-4F ICE and Tornado F3 getting Fox-3s before everyone else due to their sucky platform. People have advocated for F-4F ICE to get IRIS-T before anyone else gets IIR missiles.
Gaijin simply refuses to allow for anyone to get missiles ahead of everyone else.
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I don’t know why the F15EX didn’t arrive with Su-35. Su30SM2, Rafale, Gripen idk, and eurofighter soud be 14.7 or 15.0
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at least those got a lower BR
this isn’t the missile’s fault tho, this is the radar’s fault
There are many people who still play the F-15 and F-18 over the Eurofighter, so I guess there’s plenty of reasons including the history behind those planes. Statshark shows that even the German F-18 is more played than the German Eurofighter.
it has dual band irccm and 70g pull… both of which would destroy anything in game right now
they’re special flares designed to perfectly mimic the engine’s IR spectrum, aka 1 flare for almost any non IIR missile
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my most played jet
So you forgot to mention that these same people have never touched the SU-30SM, and if they did, they would have absolutely horrible stats, to be honest.
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Probably only because theres more US players than german ones
Are you sure that you compared the right versions of both? Because i cant find a month where the F18 has more games than the EFT.
The premium 12.7 one is more popular but thats hardly a fair comparison