Su 30sm2 should be weakened

I strongly recommend posting a comment before you indicate that you have seen or played Su30sm2. It’s not hard to open a dev server.

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Where were you guys when the Rafale was smoking everything?

You realize how cringe this is wether you’re right or wrong right?

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If you think the strength of the Rafale comes from mica, then I believe the Mirage 2000, which also has mica, is still one of the strongest planes in the game.

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FM of su30sm2 is still pretty bad its much worse than the su27sm. you can check it in statshark , only advantage of su30sm2 is in bvr. u can negate the effectiveness of fox3s by literally flying at 30m. rafale will still be the best unless they buff fox3s or fix amraams to some extent.

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If you notch in the same direction as a Rafale, you will beat it 10/10 times in the SM2. You have more missiles which have much better range and speed than a MICA while you can guide it while notching.

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True the fact that we got all this new shit and we are still 14.3 only is crazy

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There’s nothing embarrassing besides the hypocrisy of some.

It’s not hard to figure out things change on the dev server.

they literally added a second rafale.

i didn’t grind rafale when it was added. i fully agree nerfing this.


He never even has experience with the SU30.

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Skill issue, shoulda grinded the Rafale earlier

With version updates, power imbalances are inevitable. Countless other games have proven that having a stronger counter character is easier than trying to balance the game.

There’s still an advantage in maneuverability and it has Mica, although the Seeker buff is historic I think, it’s not balanced at all.

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The MICA is not unotchable. The margin of errors are just smaller.

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The reason you might feel the R-77-1 is inferior to the R-27ER is that the launch platform cannot enable the R-77-1 to perform at its full potential. The R-77-1 is the best missile in the game; it has a longer range than the R-27ER and a higher G-load tolerance. The Su-30SM2 equipped with the AL-41F provides an even more incredible launch speed for the R-77-1 and allows for guiding multiple missiles simultaneously. Sticking solely to the R-27ER prevents you from leveraging the full advantages of the Su-30SM2 .

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r u Serious bro?MICA and R77-1 have similiar G-load and BVR ability,both have its advantage and not higher than each other too much,so why R77-1 weaker than MICA?

didnt catch up that update since my game understanding was not so deep that time.

I posted some replays in another thread about the Rafale. The fact is, it’s not impossible, but much more difficult than the others. And besides that, you have a very short window of time to act, which only makes things worse. Even if you defend against a Mica, the Rafale will put you on the defensive while it goes on the offensive, putting you in a difficult position.