dont expect to have better missiles and better flightmodel than all other 14.0 aircraft at the same time. ur not getting it.
Didn’t F-15E and EFT get that?
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best flightmodell? Eurofighter have better acceleration, speed, and you can pull very high manouvers.
The Su 30 Sm have the worst turning perfomance (if the AoA is on)
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exactly. dont expect the best flight model with those missiles and their amount.
I don’t think it’s that. we want, or rather I personally want the AL-41 for better TWR just so I could climb faster
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ok. im happy with what we are getting as of right now.
You wrote this: ,dont expect to have better missiles and better flightmodel than all other 14.0 aircraft at the same time. ur not getting it."
It has the worst flightmodell ( the only advantage is Thrust vectoring in certain situations) , if you check my graph. So you mean Su 27 Sm is the best?Not. just check the graph. Its good. If Su 30 Sm will get the better engines it will be like the Su 27 Sm.
,exactly. dont expect the best flight model with those missiles and their amount."
If Su 30 Sm will get better engines, it will be like the Su 27 Sm, which is not the best.
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i said “dont expect”. i didn’t say its gonna be best i said dont expect it to be the best. as of right now it is exactly as it should be. considering the idea of the better engines, nah i think youre good with this one.
Good for you, but I personally want something that can be at least close to par with an F-15E or Eurofighter
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your missile loadout is better. your maneuverability will be worse. that is how balance works.
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I dont expect it to the best, but currently its now the worst (check the graphs). Su 27 Sm its not the best, so If the Su 30 got the upraged engines, it would be like the Su 27Sm, which is not the best.
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Then get rid of the double racks, so I can get better engines
best missile loadout = worst maneuverability.
then its closer to being a copy of other aircraft at the battlerating. su30sm is a missile boat. it is the role. enjoy it or if you dont then dont. good thing gaijin agrees with me on here and if you want something else go play the eurofighter
But all planes are missile boats, you are aware about the spamraam meta right? I’d gladly trade in 2 less missiles for better engines
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Best missile loadout?
Not everything about missile loadout. You will not fire all 14 missiles on average in all air rb matches.
Much more important is flight performance (example: How quickly you get it back your speed) in the air rb caotic zone).
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with worse missiles and less of them and against su30sm theyre going to be more suited towards being a rat for now instead of bvr
as new planes come, balance changes. su30sm will be the new top missile boat beating other aircraft in that regard and for that it will have less maneuverability. either you accept it or dont play the game. bye.
if you dont want to then dont.
which is your opinion, and then if that is more important to you than missile loadout go play the rafale. its not gaijins problem around what your priorities are and what you think is good. they know the game.
like i said if you dont like it go play some other plane or leave the game.
What should you do in bvr with your missiles if you have the worst acceleration?-> lower speed-lower energy for the missiles (R77-1 doesnt have the best range), so in bvr it will be underperforming. + in some situations when you need to defend the missile, or you need to accelerate back fastly.
If it will get the better engines,it will be like Su 27SM which is not the best at acceleration,top speed
Its not about all the missile loadout.
You said:Better loadout worst perfomance. Then what about the Eurofighter? It has one of the best flight perfomance+amazing loadout. (Aim120 with high speed+altitude its a monster)
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But aim-120s can still compete against it though? With how much drag the R-77 platform has, it’s actually slightly worse, in fact, it would probably struggle more against a notching target vs an AIM-120 because of drag
Only thing suffering here is derby/darter, MICA is still carried by the best plane (or 2nd best) in game atm
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you dont need acceleration yourself if the missile and amount of them does it for you.
considering nez you will beat others and considering missile exhances you will be able to destroy multiple aircraft in direct exchanges while others would have to start rearming after you have notched some of their missiles. you can still continue to fight and fire missiles from above into enemies down there.
understand this: su30sm will be a missile boat. not a dogfighter. if you have a problem with that then dont play the game.
and if youre competetive youll beat anything that carries amraams in bvr.
now you admitted that you can beat rafale in bvr. thats why it has significantly better maneuverability than you, so it can beat you by rat gameplay and getting close.
su30sm will be a missile boat whether you like it or not. feel free to cry about it if that is what you want to do. dont play it then.
Why so hostile man? It’s still the worst 14.0 airframr even early in the dev and it’s probably gotta get nerfed more.
We we’re pretty civil when we laid out our justifications as to why we want better engines.
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