Su-30SM: In Thrust We Trust

I have played both with and against the BVM, the issue was poor modelling of the carousel (arguably still to this day) not ‘bias’

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Yup. And the ET is a blast to use. R-27 lives on post-FOX-3.

Then Su-30 with AL-41 is no problem yes?

It’s a problem because there is no issue with the current engines, they are the real life (accurate) ones and the SM2 is likely being reserved for a later aircraft

If you want to retcon powerful engines onto the jet to attempt to make up for the weighr, without justifying the new variant, then it’s a no from me

I think aim7f is better than r24r

Yep, I’ve been caught out more than a few times in SB in the typhoon. Though PD MAWS should protect me now

Then give us a nerfed SM2? Tbey don’t even have to model the Irbis properly since all ESA radars in game are nerfed from the get go

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No

Range and alt play a big part in it. But sub 8Km, R-24R wins nearly everytime and the IOG is very good

Why not? What would make it any diffferent?

What makes it a ‘needed’ addition over the current one, which is already incredible

Because the current one is not incredible? It’s fat as heck, slow to climb, and only has a decent radar to show for it. TVC? Just a gimmick

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If the SU-30 is getting this much ‘love’ - the J-11B Dev blog is going to be a hoot.

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So you’re just whining that it’s not a UFO anymore, it was never going to compete with Eurofighters and Rafales, and still won’t with the new engines, besides the SM2 should be reserved as a new variant sonce it has enough unique features to warrant such

Yeah and the SM2 will suck just as much as this one, with all the same problems, except slightly stronger engines.

Nope? I understand it would never outrate an EFT or Rafale

Okay? At least it would have engines powerful enough to be on par with EFT with climbing

we didnt get the sm2 tho
we got the normal Su-30sm

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We also didn’t get the Su-27SM3, yet the current one is a mishmash of different versions of the Su-27SMx

ok, what parts of the sm2 are on the one in game?
because the one in game has the bars not the irbis and also the Al-31 and not the Al-41

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