Su-30SM: In Thrust We Trust

Bro would rather give up on an entire game mode (the best mode), rather than learn how to use SPAA. Only top-tier is heavily weighted towards CAS, and that’s not where the most fun is in GRB, anyway.

Not to mention, this is a video game. I’ll play any nation I want, based entirely on ingame factors - not anything outside of that (geopolitics).

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translation errors ron i don’t understand you

That’s because most redfor play 11.3/11.7 where they always outnumber bluefor due to the lack of redfor premiums above 11.3

Which is what I said.

But the mig29 is still vastly superior to that of any aircraft at 12.7 that can carry bombs in bluefor

Mig 29 and Mig 23 are the fastest aircraft at their respective BRs

Skill issue. R-24R and R-27ER are the best SARH at their respective BRs. As for IRs. Mig23 holds major advantage with having all-aspect Vs rear-aspect only. And whilst the Mig29 is getting a little underpowered at 12.7, it’s speed compensates well.

And?

And?

Fair, but nothing can be done about that unless you are suggesting fake nerfs/buffs

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Tupolev 30 now

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I have played both with and against the BVM, the issue was poor modelling of the carousel (arguably still to this day) not ‘bias’

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Yup. And the ET is a blast to use. R-27 lives on post-FOX-3.

Then Su-30 with AL-41 is no problem yes?

It’s a problem because there is no issue with the current engines, they are the real life (accurate) ones and the SM2 is likely being reserved for a later aircraft

If you want to retcon powerful engines onto the jet to attempt to make up for the weighr, without justifying the new variant, then it’s a no from me

I think aim7f is better than r24r

Yep, I’ve been caught out more than a few times in SB in the typhoon. Though PD MAWS should protect me now

Then give us a nerfed SM2? Tbey don’t even have to model the Irbis properly since all ESA radars in game are nerfed from the get go

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No

Range and alt play a big part in it. But sub 8Km, R-24R wins nearly everytime and the IOG is very good

Why not? What would make it any diffferent?

What makes it a ‘needed’ addition over the current one, which is already incredible

Because the current one is not incredible? It’s fat as heck, slow to climb, and only has a decent radar to show for it. TVC? Just a gimmick

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If the SU-30 is getting this much ‘love’ - the J-11B Dev blog is going to be a hoot.

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So you’re just whining that it’s not a UFO anymore, it was never going to compete with Eurofighters and Rafales, and still won’t with the new engines, besides the SM2 should be reserved as a new variant sonce it has enough unique features to warrant such