Su-30SM: In Thrust We Trust

That’s why I want the SM2, because the current SM is just not it. or they could mishmash it

The current SM is not it because it is severely underperforming. And its severely underperforming because it is not modelled correctly. Pretty much EVERYTHING that could be modelled wrong WAS modelled wrong.

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That not fixing the issue tho

What will? I have accepted the fact that it will always be inferior in a dog fight even with TVC, but that’s fine. The stronger engines just means a climb on par with the EFT and F-15E for ideal BVR ranges and altitudes

Aim-7s are still very usable and viable aams I like how you dismiss them as a whole.

Pythons are pretty good too let’s not forget those.

Although the Mig-29 may have a higher top speed, I much prefer my mirage, better aams, better radar, etc.

But please, show me your “vast superiority” with the MiG. I’d love to see it.

Incorrect. There are plenty of premiums about for both sides, generally most people gravitate towards what is the meta vehicle. Why do you think so many F-15Es sprung up? Because they were next to impossible to counter.
Even at 11.3/11.7 your still out numbered, it doesn’t matter the br.

”Skill issue” and yup, you’ve lost the argument now.

Smokeless aams are next to impossible to detect if they’re inbound, so you have to mass dump flares and evade if your sixth sense even has an idea it’s coming.

What was this reported for?

the su30 ingame isnt bad because of its engine its bad because gaijin artifically nerfed it…
it has worse oswald efficency than the su34

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Fixing the energy retention and the unrealistic Oswald coefficient but understandable for you to give up on trying to fix it

Yeah I doubt that’s ever gonna happen tbh.

It accelerates as fast as an F-14B while the Su-30SM has more fuel.

The radar makes up for it.

the reason aim-7’s get dismissed is because any maneuverable fighter can dodge them easily at low level

Are you really comparing it to an F-14B when it should be comparable to an EFT or F-15E?

Tell the to the Su-39s I smite with it

I’m giving you a reference of what it’s closest to.
TWR isn’t everything, as Mirage 2000 shows at 13.7.

Ain’t that because Delta wings are just good in turns in general?

this plane became worse than the su34 after this massive nerf

it isn’t limited to pure delta wings. twr isn’t everything.

Nope, it’s superior to the Su-34.
Just don’t bring 14 missiles.

It also sustains 0.5 degrees less per second than F-14B when both are at equal afterburning fuel time.

the fm is nerfed to joke level so not

Then according to your posts F-14B is trash…
Just cause the F-14B and Su-30SM don’t have meta flight models doesn’t mean they’re bad.

Where dovbleg on Harrier T10?

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