Su-30SM: In Thrust We Trust

N010 is much better than N001 but the 29 SMT is horrific compared to the Su27SM

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Would you care to see my spaded Su-34, and Su-27?

The SMT’s radar is still one of the best in game and it is tied with the yak-141 in the RU tree right after the su-34. In my opinion I’d still take the 29SMT over the 34 just because the radar has the ability to hold lock up to 85 degrees off bore but the su-34 has a much better scan rate and range. Tbf the range doesn’t matter much untill the 77-1 seeing as the 77’s we have aren’t good beyond 20-25 km

They aren’t good beyond 15km lol.

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hell they cant even reach 15km

I stopped launching them over 10km away as it’s mostly pointless.

Ehh I get lucky against those typical straight line f-15’s especially in sim but yea they are a bit lacking beyond 15km

They are decent against afk people that will fly straight into it but for anything else they’re dogshit.

Seen them getting notched from a perfect head-on at well under 10km.

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I don’t have much of an issue within 15km unless the guy I’m shooting at is headon charging in the multipath, which at this point should be removed as it’s pretty easy to notch but since people are able to buy basically up to top tier they have to give em a handhold. I find if you hold a hard lock, and seeing that I use the SM mostly and it’s TWS is pretty lackluster, if they don’t get the chance to shoot back and proceed to try to notch, holding the lock negates that unless they go cold in which you’re able to push closer. I do agree though the r-77 is only really good in close range scenarios and only really beaten by the mica

Uhm what? Best in the game??? That this is still a massively bugged mess. I’d take the Su-27 Amy day of the week over the 29SMT

I’d say even less. 12KM

I’ve had instances, of firing first, then 15 secs later the enemy jet fires at me, I evade, they fly straight. Aim-120 somehow hits me first… and the R-77 misses at about 8-10 km range.

Hell the R-27s have been garbage too since the R-77s came out. They’re more reliable sure but not once what they were, even with constant lock.

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I don’t know what bugs you are talking about, if you clip it and send it to me maybe i could understand because from my experience the SMT’s radar is cracked just lacking a good FM. And compared to the 27’s it is a huge upgrade as it’s tws has a faster and more consistent scan rate plus 85 degrees of gimble which allows you to guide missiles in almost in the notch.

Oh how unaware you are… let me alleviate that.
The RP on the statcard is base RP, before victory/loss multipliers, and before vehicle multipliers.

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And even with multipliers, it is not enough to explain.

I can’t disagree on this. The r77 is extremely lacking at bvr. As an ambush plane in air rb, it will be fine, but I do not know how it will measure up in SIM. On the ‘bright’ side, the NO11M seems to be getting additional DL targets (to 4 now with a bug report for 8 coming), so that would allow it to guide to more than one target without so easily losing lock.

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Let’s put my Sea Vixen I accidentally my entire tree with.
694833 base RP.
x6.24 multiplier = 4,335,757 RP before win/loss multiplier addition.

I don’t know how win/loss mult works so I can’t comment further.

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Here, this is what I mean:

Lets assume the multiplier here is 10x. That would be 28,780. Lets assume, fantastically, that the landing bonus doubles this. That would be 57,560. Lets then assume that for whatever reason that the full kills bonus was applied on all 3 matches. That would be another 100% multiplier on all that RP, which would put you at 115,120 rp.

This would STILL not be enough for this:
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Are you seeing where my confusion lays here? Even with fantastical numbers, it’s not enough. This is the simulator record for the f15E for @UniqueScorpions.

If you would also like to include the Realistic Battles record:

The values tend to be lower than what is displayed. By Kronstadt for example says I’ve made very little, or some other naval vessel I cannot recall.

The stats aren’t always accurate.

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No. Warthunder’s traccking is almost excessively robust, and I could use a 3rd party website to look too and get the same values. Don’t bullshit me to my face.