Su-30SM: In Thrust We Trust

Okay, Alwis. I don’t care. I just care that the plane wasn’t very good before, but now it’s a pice of trash. The nerf was unjustified and pointless.

Well, I did just compare it to F-15E which it matched outside acceleration.
Su-30SM has a superior radar, weapons, and weapons load to F-15E as well.

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Can you compare time to climb? That’s the thing I’m most interested in

Russia never gets anything nice.

I’m getting the document formatted as we speak.

Time to 10,000 meters with 9 minutes of fuel is 115 seconds, which is equal to Su-33, and 26 seconds slower than F-15E.
More vehicles are getting tested on 9 and 5 minutes, so that’s all I have at this time.

Thank you

This has to be ragebait…right?

People need to stop assuming sincere opinions are bait, let alone rageful… what part of that sentence suggests he’s mad?

It was sarcasm, i forgot the /s

It doesn’t have to be meta or op. The su30 hasn’t been outstanding so far before this nerf. That’s why I call the nerf ridiculous and unjustified.

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If its wrong, then its wrong. If those nerfs are wrong, submit a bug report

It’s completely pointless to write a bug report for this. Because they nerfed it, they want the plane to be useless. And like I said. The su30 dont been anything op before they kill the plane.

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Given the fact its widely agreed that most soviets vehicles/weapons are left in an over-performing state and heck, it took 3 years for them to nerf the Mig-23 down to IRL performance, I dont really know why you think the devs hate the soviet TT.

Heck, just need to look at KH-38s, the Pantsir, etc to clearly see that they dont. If anything they love the soviets.

But IRL performance is all that matters. If it can be proved wrong, then it should be corrected. Otherwise Battle ratings become pointless and vehicles should be buffed to match performance of similar BR vehicles. I’ll take an F3 Late that can turn fight as well as a Gripen and is as fast as a F-15A please

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Didn’t MiG-29 get nerfed 1 patch after its intro and is still in a nerfed state right now? Also did it not take them 1 year to introduce changes to the gimped Su-27 airframe?

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This is a game and no the real life.
And i dont care the ground rb so i dont care the kh38mt so i dont care if they remove that.
I just care the plane fm now its a joke

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And the Sea Harrier FRS1 is only just getting its placeholder HUD corrected after 2.25 years and still got a number of other outstanding bug reports left to be fixed. All Harriers are finally getting some of their IRL turn performance but its taken years to get and more left to come hopefully

Tornados IDS still have basically none of their radar modeled among other issues

Typhoon’s radar is buggy mess and barely usable at the moment ,easily on par with the performance of the Su-27s radar despite being “the best mechanical radar in the world”

So… Your point being?

Mig-29 was over performing, it got nerfed. Still dominated with the R-27ER though which was so far ahead of the competition that BVR combat was just not a thing and multipath hugging and IR combat became the meta.

( was not fun in the Tornado F3)

So prove it. Find sources and bug report its FM.

Its a game that prides itself on being as accurate to real-life as game limitations allow. If you want “balanced modeling”, play world of airplanes.

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But SARH didn’t introduce hug the ground meta F-14 did? Also didn’t the Gripen with the unlimited flares dominated in that?

Also MiG-29 can barely raye fight now no? Despite being able to match that of an F-16? They artificially introduced the 27ER to compensate how bad it was or rather it is, when the easy fix would have been to give its R-73s and retain the 27Rs

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I just love a missile that changes the meta to go against it’s host aircraft lmao.

Not to the same extent imo. I dont recall having to spend my entire time at 50ft until after the Mig-29s were added.

Maybe, but then they ahistorically nerfed ALL BOL to be 1/4 their IRL size. Still waiting for them to give us back IRL performance BOL as that nerfed crippled EVERYTHING that used BOL. Such as the F3, Gr7, FA2, Viggens, F-14B, etc.

Did it? could it? Have sources for that?

It was given R-27ERs because R-73s at that time would have been too OP. Personally I think the R-73s would have been favourable and they should be swapped now R-73s are in-game. But it was never a fake buff to make the Mig-29 competitive. It was perfectly competitive and still is at its BR. Thats what BR is for. If it was underperforming, they’d low the BR of it.

In what world is Su-30SM and F-15E useless just cause they’re not Typhoon, F-18C, or Rafale?