Su-30SM: In Thrust We Trust

Event vehicle?

no indication from snailmine however i hope that it will be a premium to be a counterpart to the AV8 night attack in the USA tree
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Sure, but if time to speed sim in statshark is worth anything. The heavier airframe makes it struggle to get to speed. That would translate to poorer climb as well no?

good thing your missiles supersede being marginally poorer at climb

god damn we’re gonna have this argment again aren’t we? How does it translate well when F-15E and EFT is better at reaching optimal missile firing solutions faster with a comparable to better missile?

i already gave a good explaination, so good that the person who made the thread asked it to be closed because he lost and couldn’t reply anymore.
you have enough missiles to fire at kmax and force the hostile defensive from the get go.

@CAMPER_REMOVER
lol Absolute glazing of Russian aircraft.
Soviet aircraft are currently not nerfed.
Su-27SM performs as well as F-16C in-game right now in the general flight performance.

The fact your post praises Su-27SM being a UFO while claiming it’s nerfed is hilarious.

It’s obvious your posts portray you thinking Su-27SM is superior to Typhoon in airframe performance just because it performs as well as an F-16C.

Zero NATO aircraft are “over-buffed” in War Thunder.
F-15E has a worse airframe than J-11B and Su-27SM, F-15E is just slightly faster.

But yeah, keep complaining about the Su-30 and F-14B being non-meta compared to Typhoon, Rafale, and F-18.

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these people earlier claimed that the su30sm would lose to a phantom until someone sent them a video of trashing a j10 in the sm

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Yeah, but the concept of radar doesn’t exist on the su27sm and no one was talking about the f16c… I don’t need your scientific proofs, Alvis. I know who you are. No matter what you say, this nerf is ridiculous.

Magik and I did Phantom v Su-30SM as well.
People forget that the Phantom rates over 3 degrees per second worse than F-14B and Su-30SM, and can’t pull as well in AOA. In-fact the only Phantom that came close was F-4FGR2, and that requires 30SM pilot to make major mistakes.

@CAMPER_REMOVER
Glad you know I’m a bug reporter, information gatherer, and sincere individual.
And it’s not a nerf to sustained turn rate, cause I literally tested STR AKA energy retention on patch one and again for the results I gave you just now and they’re identical.

Alvis, the plane has literally become a piece of shit after this nerf. And not because of the extra weight.

Correct me if i’m wrong here but r73’s plus instantly being able to turn around would make it VERY good at 1v1 close range encounters, even though you bleed all your speed. And for ARB you can use 12 of the r77-1 with a good radar, so why are people still complaining about it?

any player who have 3 braincell can dodge the r73 bro and easili multipath any fox3

8 R-77s + 2 R-73s looks like the ideal loadout.
Though you can go anywhere from 6-4, 7-3, or 8-2 and get rather good results.
Su-30SM is a strong platform despite being the worst airframe.

It’s as if you made F-14B 14.0 with up to 14 missiles, including 8 - 12 AIM-120C5s.
Not ideal, but more than usable.

If they press the flare button a few times before and as you fire it the R-73 goes to Narnia. After that you’re in a falling boat and dead.

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okay but he doesn’t know that

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Until you come across someone like myself that can line up warmup time with the flaring.
Even IF they succeed in using over 30 flares to prevent my first missile launch, I have a 2nd IR missile, sometimes even 3 more, and they don’t have the flares at that level of panic to get through all of them.

An incredibly specific scenario that happens 1/25 times at best

You mean like how someone pre-flaring correctly happens about as often… proving @Chubbmaster 's point which I agree with.

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anyone with 3 braincells at maybe around 4km to 3km, but anything closer than that and its quite hard to flare, unless you play it absolutely perfectly. You can easily multipath, yes, but having a bigger store of missiles is a big advantage as you can imagine

@SidewaysCube946 Preflaring is extremely finnicky at times, especially with something with BOL which goes everywhere, and even if you don’t have BOL its not like you have a huge number of flares to waste