Su-30SM: In Thrust We Trust

Official News, Development Blogs and Updates
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Eeeeeh not really

The Su-30SM derives from the Russian-Indian Joint Su-30MKI,which is an improved version of the Su-30 which in turns is the Su-27PU (basically a A2A only Su-27 with the dual cockpit of the Su-27UB)

The Su-27SM is the mid-life upgrade of base Su-27s and the improved Su-27S variant.

Different airframes, slightly different engines, slightly different avionics and slightly different stats.

You need to understand that the Su-33,Su-34,Su-30,Su-27SM and the Su-35 are all slightly different projects that may have something in common, excluding the fact that they all come from the base Su-27

The Su-33 is derived from the Su-27K,the Su-34 from both the Su-33 and the Su-27KUB,the Su-30 as i said from the Su-27PU,the Su-35 from the Su-27M and finally the Su-27SM from the Su-27S

Same thing with the upcoming J-11B: tracing its origins is a mess

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so you it is ok if you only find pictures on THE INTERNET where it carries 6 r-77 but when iam it isnt great…

I love double standarts

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I love how nothing about the flight performance in the dev blog is true.

Its fat, underpowered, has the worst flight performance among all Flankers in the game, and the thrust vectoring is not even modelled correctly.

I have seen higher quality in kids drawings than i have seen in this plane. What is Gaijin smoking?

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Bro would rather give up on an entire game mode (the best mode), rather than learn how to use SPAA. Only top-tier is heavily weighted towards CAS, and that’s not where the most fun is in GRB, anyway.

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Not to mention, this is a video game. I’ll play any nation I want, based entirely on ingame factors - not anything outside of that (geopolitics).

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translation errors ron i don’t understand you

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That’s because most redfor play 11.3/11.7 where they always outnumber bluefor due to the lack of redfor premiums above 11.3

Which is what I said.

But the mig29 is still vastly superior to that of any aircraft at 12.7 that can carry bombs in bluefor

Mig 29 and Mig 23 are the fastest aircraft at their respective BRs

Skill issue. R-24R and R-27ER are the best SARH at their respective BRs. As for IRs. Mig23 holds major advantage with having all-aspect Vs rear-aspect only. And whilst the Mig29 is getting a little underpowered at 12.7, it’s speed compensates well.

And?

And?

Fair, but nothing can be done about that unless you are suggesting fake nerfs/buffs

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Tupolev 30 now

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I have played both with and against the BVM, the issue was poor modelling of the carousel (arguably still to this day) not ‘bias’

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Yup. And the ET is a blast to use. R-27 lives on post-FOX-3.

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Then Su-30 with AL-41 is no problem yes?

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It’s a problem because there is no issue with the current engines, they are the real life (accurate) ones and the SM2 is likely being reserved for a later aircraft

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If you want to retcon powerful engines onto the jet to attempt to make up for the weighr, without justifying the new variant, then it’s a no from me

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I think aim7f is better than r24r

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Yep, I’ve been caught out more than a few times in SB in the typhoon. Though PD MAWS should protect me now

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Then give us a nerfed SM2? Tbey don’t even have to model the Irbis properly since all ESA radars in game are nerfed from the get go

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No

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Range and alt play a big part in it. But sub 8Km, R-24R wins nearly everytime and the IOG is very good

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Why not? What would make it any diffferent?

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What makes it a ‘needed’ addition over the current one, which is already incredible