The meta is survival as you stated, but survival is dictated in two parts. Your skill, and the enemy’s knowledge of launch windows.
If the enemy launches properly your skill matters a whole lot more in your survival. Launch order matters more in the beginning due to the standard curve of player skill. As you previously stated we aren’t talking about custom battles, and it’s very hard to win a 1v9. I’ve done it, but I usually lose it.
Didn’t know “equal” and “similar” were synonymous with each other. Oh wait, they aren’t.
If you let the enemy launch properly.* Your post mentions skill, so your post should include the correct statement.
It is about who screws up first, and some aircraft [Such as Su-30SM, F-15E, and F-15C] can make those mistakes occur easier. In the F-15E’s case: No IRT, and the worst STR on live right now, it’s harder for the aircraft to play the 2nd part of the match than it is for Typhoon, Rafale, F-15C, or even Su-27SM. Pretty much everything with a better airframe.
The F-15C came out with the AIM-120 and invented the superclimb launch and start the 2nd portion of the match. It was the sole aircraft at the time that could do that.
F-15E came and that’s the only real tactic that aircraft can do above others, and Typhoon came able to do the same exact thing an update later.
Oh and F-15C can still do it alongside Su-27SM.
This all comes from the statement "AMRAAMs equalize airframes; old wisdom that militaries knew 30+ years ago and still know.
Yes, in a perfect situation Typhoon, Rafale, and F-18 are THE best platforms at 14.0; AMRAAMs ruin those positions for them.
Yes, it’s probable that the Su-30SM will lose at the end of the match. It won’t lose against an F-15E when both players of of equal skill, but it’s probable cause that one AMRAAM shot from one of the aircraft can cause the other player to make a mistake.
Equal, equivalent, similar are synonyms in that context.
Identical, copy-paste, etc would be the terms I would’ve used otherwise.
Oh, and you want to know what the primary purpose is of the PW-229s? To make the F-15E have a higher cruise speed when bomb-equipped.
→ Gets denied on the Bug report site for poor sources (that literally all talk about Su-30SM2)
→ Moves it to the forums with the exact same thing (The same sources)
What have we come to…
(The wise wonders of the misinformation that spreads from posts like these goes crazy)
Like I get it, the flight pref of 30SM leaves something to be desired but like… just sit down and use the hand you’re dealt my god…
Hang on, I posted here before I made the bug report.
And I did not know that the sources talked about the SM2. You mentioned that they were all talking about the SM2 before they were reclassified the SM2. Can you clarify which information/source states they were reclassified? I am really curious as finding sources were difficult.
Also is it possible they are talking about the refitting of the old SM not the newly produced SM2s?
New engines, New equipment (Ie. Radar and other systems along those lines)
Aka, Su-30SM2’s AL-41F1S, Irbis (or whatever radar SM2 actually uses), New HUD (Same one as Su-35S), new RWR placement, etc
And they are refitting old SM (I think? Don’t remember tbh) and new SM2 airframes, it’s just that there’s no stop gap between SM and SM2 (which is what people sometimes seem to think is real, ie Su-30SM w/ AL-41F1S)
The difference is the F-15E is flying with those engines and have been for years.
The Su-30SM’s engine upgrade program is so far conjecture.
One piece of evidence was SM2 getting the engines.
F-15E was upgraded sometime over a decade ago. All existing F-15Es in service use the engines because it gives the aircraft a higher subsonic cruise speed when running strike missions over the “old” engines.
Correct, so it was upgraded, and in game was also upgraded, i dont see why the Su-30SM cant get its upgraded engines. We just want the engines, and it can be done , because the f-15e got its engines without its radar
Right now I’ve seen no evidence of Su-30SM with upgraded engines, let alone the entire fleet.
Also the F-15E does have its radar.
AESA was only recently added to the Es if at all.
Sep 9, 2024 is the news article for refit, so I’m doubting the claims that SM “1” is currently upgraded.
I do get that people are upset that the Su-30SM accelerates the slowest of the 14.0s; I just don’t understand why the complaints are happening when Mirage players don’t complain about the Mirage 2000 being the slowest accelerating 13.7.
Probably because the mirage just flys like a dream in every other aspect, and the Mica-EM missiles are pretty phenomenal. Hell even the 12.7 mirage blew my mind. First 5 games with it I couldn’t manage to die and had 90%+ activity in all of them with 2-3 kills a game bone stock🤣
I’m using the F-15JM, not the E. The E’s inferior to the JM overall for what I want in a jet.
I don’t care for a 2 minute climb and likely never will. It’s a cool tactic, but it leaves you doing little for a lot of the match more matches than not.
