why do you think it stands out?
The real problem here it’s not the br placement ( that can and should be higher) but the fact that you get the same a2a loadout as the best aircraft in the tree without the grind, while also having the best cas loadout in the tree
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isnt it a better cas option?
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I love how people are saying the pl12s and r77s are 120a/b equivalents… clearly you’ve not suffered with fox3s
yes, 6 kh29s and a kab1500, nothing comes close in the cn tech tree
gaijin logics is something abnormal sadly
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???
And? Your point being?
Those are all mega strong in downtiers it’s just that the Su-30 premiums take it to a WHOLE ANOTHER LEVEL.
You get the largest missile payload of those you listed, HMD and a great FM (those by themselves aren’t unique to it at that BR but I’m talking about the whole package here).
All the while an aircraft with basically identical performance ( the Su-27SM) is a step above it and DEFO not weak.
Plus what I said is that yes the 12.3/12.7s suffered badly against 13.3 but getting a premium like that with even better missiles ( saying R-77 = PL-12 is complete and utter blasphemy) makes the pain EVEN WORSE due to incredible spam and MM saturation.
Try to first think about what I’m trying to imply before randomly throwing something my way. Can’t be direct on here anyway cuz any criticism gets taken down, even if it’s constructive and objective thru and thru.
@Bonrath
There’s a reason I mention all of them, not just one.
I don’t just target J-11A, or Su-30MK2, or MKK.
I target every under-BR’d jet 13.3 - 14.0, because they all impact each other.
No idea why it isn’t tech tree.
So it’s just a vastly superior J-11A at the same BR
Cool
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Even if you push the ENTIRE group up in BR the Su-30MK series is STILL going to stand out.
So what’s the damn point? Not like they consider any feedback anyway.
@Bonrath
The PL-12 is a worse maneuvering missile for better longer range engagements.
R-77 is better suited for medium to shorter ranges.
The radar missiles are mostly a playstyle difference.
PL-8B and R-73 are both short range IR missiles that use FOV reducing IRCCM, like the Magic 2 missile.
techtree could get the mk2 or just jump to j16
Maybe, I’d just rather have it in the tech tree because it would be the perfect jet to have before J-16, plus it wouldn’t add to the premium spam that way.
well cn operates the mk2 also, and with this one being premium, that means less planes to grind before the j16
I just like the Su-30MKK a lot though, one of my fav planes.
In fact, Gaijin has conflated the Su-30MK2 and the Su-30MKK into a single aircraft, and even made it a premium bundle vehicle.
The biggest issue right now is that I can just spend money to get an aircraft equipped with China’s top-tier missiles, which also boasts excellent air combat performance and top-tier CAS capabilities. So then, what’s the point of grinding through the Chinese tech tree at all?
Why is gaijin like this…
at least this is free food for the real top tiers as its a 13.3
But it actually boasts the best CAS capabilities across the entire Chinese tree.